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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 490368" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>As for the formulae I use, Gez pretty much nailed it. It's great for making a multiclass character more like the single-classed characters, in terms of not having that randomly huge Fort or Will save. You don't really need any charts, once you've got the formulas memorized:</p><p></p><p>(quick explanation)</p><p>Look at a Bard8/Cleric4/Wizard2 -- 14 levels total. </p><p></p><p>He's got 14 levels of Will Good, since all classes have the good Will progression</p><p></p><p>He's got 8 levels of Reflex Good and 6 levels of Reflex Poor, since the Bard gets Reflex Good and the Wizard and Cleric don't</p><p></p><p>He's got 4 levels of Fortitude Good and 10 levels of Fortitude Poor, since only the Cleric gets Fortitude Good</p><p></p><p>That means that his saves are:</p><p></p><p>Will: 14/2 +2 = +9 (just like the Will save of any single-classed 14th level character with Will Good)</p><p></p><p>Reflex: 8/2 +2 +6/3 = 4+2+2 = +8</p><p></p><p>Fortitude: 4/2 +2 + 10/3 = 2+2+3 = +7</p><p></p><p>His Base attack bonus would be </p><p></p><p>(12 x 3/4) + (2 x 1/2) = 9+1 = +10/+5</p><p></p><p>In terms of what I allow as a DM, I'm fine with people multiclassing as they like, as long as they have a way to justify it. The general rule of thumb is, "Can you tell me how your character got this new knowledge?" If they want to level rogue, they can tell me how much they've been sneaking around as a fighter. If they want to level cleric, they can tell me how they've started getting more fervent in their prayers to the god of righteous combat, and maybe he's started answering... and so forth. If a party has a wizard, it's reasonable for him to teach other people the wizardly arts.</p><p></p><p>I'm a bit sterner on things like monk, but again, if they can justify it, I'm fine.</p><p></p><p>-Tacky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 490368, member: 5171"] As for the formulae I use, Gez pretty much nailed it. It's great for making a multiclass character more like the single-classed characters, in terms of not having that randomly huge Fort or Will save. You don't really need any charts, once you've got the formulas memorized: (quick explanation) Look at a Bard8/Cleric4/Wizard2 -- 14 levels total. He's got 14 levels of Will Good, since all classes have the good Will progression He's got 8 levels of Reflex Good and 6 levels of Reflex Poor, since the Bard gets Reflex Good and the Wizard and Cleric don't He's got 4 levels of Fortitude Good and 10 levels of Fortitude Poor, since only the Cleric gets Fortitude Good That means that his saves are: Will: 14/2 +2 = +9 (just like the Will save of any single-classed 14th level character with Will Good) Reflex: 8/2 +2 +6/3 = 4+2+2 = +8 Fortitude: 4/2 +2 + 10/3 = 2+2+3 = +7 His Base attack bonus would be (12 x 3/4) + (2 x 1/2) = 9+1 = +10/+5 In terms of what I allow as a DM, I'm fine with people multiclassing as they like, as long as they have a way to justify it. The general rule of thumb is, "Can you tell me how your character got this new knowledge?" If they want to level rogue, they can tell me how much they've been sneaking around as a fighter. If they want to level cleric, they can tell me how they've started getting more fervent in their prayers to the god of righteous combat, and maybe he's started answering... and so forth. If a party has a wizard, it's reasonable for him to teach other people the wizardly arts. I'm a bit sterner on things like monk, but again, if they can justify it, I'm fine. -Tacky [/QUOTE]
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