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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6371249" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>it's curious that Pathfinder doesn't include typical dimensions and weights for creatures of different sizes in its Creature Size and Scale table.</p><p></p><p>The 3E D&D System Reference Document (SRD) does include typical values in its <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat" target="_blank"><strong>Creature Size and Scale</strong></a> table, so it does seem reasonable to assume Pathfinder creatures use similar values since it's an Open Game Licence product that's (supposedly) compatible with the SRD.</p><p></p><p>The relevant bites in this case are: </p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Size</td><td>Height or Length¹</td><td>Weight²</td></tr><tr><td>Fine</td><td>6 in. or less</td><td>1/8 lb. or less</td></tr><tr><td>Diminutive</td><td>6 in. - 1 ft.</td><td>1/8 lb. - 1 lb.</td></tr><tr><td>Tiny</td><td>1 ft. - 2 ft.</td><td>1 lb. - 8 lb.</td></tr><tr><td>Small</td><td>2 ft. - 4 ft.</td><td>8 lb. - 60 lb.</td></tr><tr><td>Medium</td><td>4 ft. - 8 ft.</td><td>60 lb. - 500 lb.</td></tr><tr><td>Large</td><td>8 ft. - 16 ft.</td><td>500 lb. - 2 tons</td></tr><tr><td>Huge</td><td>16 ft. - 32 ft.</td><td>2 tons - 16 tons</td></tr><tr><td>Gargantuan</td><td>32 ft. - 64 ft.</td><td>16 tons - 125 tons</td></tr><tr><td>Colossal</td><td>64 ft. or more</td><td>125 tons or more</td></tr></table> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Assumes that the creature is roughly as dense as a regular animal. A creature made of stone will weigh considerably more. A gaseous creature will weigh much less. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">These values are typical for creatures of the indicated size. Some exceptions exist. </li> </ol><p></p><p>So a foot tall Fey like you're designing would typically be Tiny sized in 3E, and is probably the same size category in Pathfinder. Going by the above table it ought to weigh somewhere around 1 to 8 pounds.</p><p></p><p>It's unlikely to be Small. A <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/additionalMonsters/grig.html" target="_blank"><strong>Pathfinder Grig</strong></a> is Tiny sized and eighteen inches tall, 50% taller than the 1 foot you mentioned. </p><p></p><p>A <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary3/atomie.html" target="_blank"><strong>Pathfinder Atomie</strong></a> is the next size smaller (Diminutive) and "stands just under a foot tall and weighs 2 pounds".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6371249, member: 57383"] it's curious that Pathfinder doesn't include typical dimensions and weights for creatures of different sizes in its Creature Size and Scale table. The 3E D&D System Reference Document (SRD) does include typical values in its [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat"][B]Creature Size and Scale[/B][/URL] table, so it does seem reasonable to assume Pathfinder creatures use similar values since it's an Open Game Licence product that's (supposedly) compatible with the SRD. The relevant bites in this case are: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Size[/TD] [TD]Height or Length¹[/TD] [TD]Weight²[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fine[/TD] [TD]6 in. or less[/TD] [TD]1/8 lb. or less[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Diminutive[/TD] [TD]6 in. - 1 ft.[/TD] [TD]1/8 lb. - 1 lb.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tiny[/TD] [TD]1 ft. - 2 ft.[/TD] [TD]1 lb. - 8 lb.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Small[/TD] [TD]2 ft. - 4 ft.[/TD] [TD]8 lb. - 60 lb.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium[/TD] [TD]4 ft. - 8 ft.[/TD] [TD]60 lb. - 500 lb.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Large[/TD] [TD]8 ft. - 16 ft.[/TD] [TD]500 lb. - 2 tons[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Huge[/TD] [TD]16 ft. - 32 ft.[/TD] [TD]2 tons - 16 tons[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gargantuan[/TD] [TD]32 ft. - 64 ft.[/TD] [TD]16 tons - 125 tons[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Colossal[/TD] [TD]64 ft. or more[/TD] [TD]125 tons or more[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [LIST=1] [*]Assumes that the creature is roughly as dense as a regular animal. A creature made of stone will weigh considerably more. A gaseous creature will weigh much less. [*]These values are typical for creatures of the indicated size. Some exceptions exist. [/LIST] So a foot tall Fey like you're designing would typically be Tiny sized in 3E, and is probably the same size category in Pathfinder. Going by the above table it ought to weigh somewhere around 1 to 8 pounds. It's unlikely to be Small. A [URL="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/additionalMonsters/grig.html"][B]Pathfinder Grig[/B][/URL] is Tiny sized and eighteen inches tall, 50% taller than the 1 foot you mentioned. A [URL="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary3/atomie.html"][B]Pathfinder Atomie[/B][/URL] is the next size smaller (Diminutive) and "stands just under a foot tall and weighs 2 pounds". [/QUOTE]
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