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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8602777" data-attributes="member: 22779">To be fair, like all things, there are limits.&nbsp; Obviously the heavy lifting in my statement was the &quot;frequent&quot; part.&nbsp; No system will ever cover 100% of all eventualities.&nbsp; That's just not possible.&nbsp; But, OTOH, for me, a working system will cover common actions most of the time.&nbsp; And, yes, that's vague, because, well, there's no real hard line here.&nbsp; &quot;Well, it must work X% of the time before we consider it working&quot; just isn't all that useful.&nbsp; OTOH, lots of systems have a sort of default mechanic to baseline actions.&nbsp; For example, Savage World's Rule of 4 where a 4 always succeeds.&nbsp; The only thing in question is what modifiers and what size of die are you rolling.&nbsp; If the rules simply wash their hands of a situation, that could be the sign of a system not working.&nbsp; Sure, if it's a really corner case issue, then fine, no problem.&nbsp; But, take early versions of D&amp;D.&nbsp; You had no rules at all for jumping.&nbsp; The system simply did not give you any baseline at all for how and how far a character could jump.&nbsp; So, you had fifteen different ad hoc systems for covering a very basic thing that comes up a lot in game.&nbsp; This is a system not working.&nbsp; 5e, generally, works.&nbsp; There aren't too many times the game comes to a crashing halt because no one at the table, including the mechanics, has any idea about how to adjudicate something.&nbsp; It does come up, and that's why we have a DM.&nbsp; For example, today the question of, &quot;Can I stuff a corpse into a Bag of Holding using a Telekinesis spell&quot; was an actual question during the session.&nbsp; The rules are largely silent on this.&nbsp; I don't think there's any really applicable rules for if you can stuff a corpse in a bag of holding, so, it's pretty much 100% DM's call.&nbsp; But, I'm also going to say that this is not a question that comes up so often that it requires mechanics.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8602777, member: 22779"] To be fair, like all things, there are limits. Obviously the heavy lifting in my statement was the "frequent" part. No system will ever cover 100% of all eventualities. That's just not possible. But, OTOH, for me, a working system will cover common actions most of the time. And, yes, that's vague, because, well, there's no real hard line here. "Well, it must work X% of the time before we consider it working" just isn't all that useful. OTOH, lots of systems have a sort of default mechanic to baseline actions. For example, Savage World's Rule of 4 where a 4 always succeeds. The only thing in question is what modifiers and what size of die are you rolling. If the rules simply wash their hands of a situation, that could be the sign of a system not working. Sure, if it's a really corner case issue, then fine, no problem. But, take early versions of D&D. You had no rules at all for jumping. The system simply did not give you any baseline at all for how and how far a character could jump. So, you had fifteen different ad hoc systems for covering a very basic thing that comes up a lot in game. This is a system not working. 5e, generally, works. There aren't too many times the game comes to a crashing halt because no one at the table, including the mechanics, has any idea about how to adjudicate something. It does come up, and that's why we have a DM. For example, today the question of, "Can I stuff a corpse into a Bag of Holding using a Telekinesis spell" was an actual question during the session. The rules are largely silent on this. I don't think there's any really applicable rules for if you can stuff a corpse in a bag of holding, so, it's pretty much 100% DM's call. But, I'm also going to say that this is not a question that comes up so often that it requires mechanics. :D [/QUOTE]

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