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<blockquote data-quote="Grendel_Khan" data-source="post: 8602824" data-attributes="member: 7028554">The rules getting out of the way language has been bugging me, too, but I wasn't sure how to articulate why. You've put it perfectly. But I'd also wager that some people might be conflating &quot;rules getting out of the way&quot; with &quot;I know these rules really well.&quot;To stake my bet, I propose that if it was really about rules not interfering with play, everyone talking about that as the main system requirement would be playing story games, or at the very least one of the many incredibly rules-lite systems out there.I also think when you have to dig through a spell list to double-check the specific effects of a spell cast at a specific level against a specific target with a given set of resistances or saving throw opportunities, play halts, pages are flipped or scrolled through, etc. The rules are waddling out of the dark and plopping right down in everyone's path, fully in the way. They're just rules--and a process of checking them--you've grown accustomed to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Grendel_Khan, post: 8602824, member: 7028554"] The rules getting out of the way language has been bugging me, too, but I wasn't sure how to articulate why. You've put it perfectly. But I'd also wager that some people might be conflating "rules getting out of the way" with "I know these rules really well." To stake my bet, I propose that if it was really about rules not interfering with play, everyone talking about that as the main system requirement would be playing story games, or at the very least one of the many incredibly rules-lite systems out there. I also think when you have to dig through a spell list to double-check the specific effects of a spell cast at a specific level against a specific target with a given set of resistances or saving throw opportunities, play halts, pages are flipped or scrolled through, etc. The rules are waddling out of the dark and plopping right down in everyone's path, fully in the way. They're just rules--and a process of checking them--you've grown accustomed to. [/QUOTE]

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