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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 5923157" data-attributes="member: 2518">The game evolved and adapted to modern times where racism and stereotypes became less and less accepted and times where games became ever more complex, especially because of the advancement of computers.And then the game degenerated back to its roots. We all know what happened.And how often do you see that games which, in their core, are simply H&amp;S games get campaign settings/modules for complex scenarios? Never. The tone of the core rules set the tone of the edition.Please leave core rules alone so that people who want complex games have a foundation to work with and people who like simple games can use them as they are and just ignore all the stuff they don't care about.It might also surprise you, but there is more to fantasy than just Tolkien. Especially after 4E and the mass exodus of players you have to stop believing that D&amp;D defines what fantasy is and instead you should look at the fantasy literature of the time to see what &quot;accepted fantasy norms&quot; are. And most of them today have more complex monsters than &quot;always evil&quot; orcs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Derren, post: 5923157, member: 2518"] The game evolved and adapted to modern times where racism and stereotypes became less and less accepted and times where games became ever more complex, especially because of the advancement of computers. And then the game degenerated back to its roots. We all know what happened. And how often do you see that games which, in their core, are simply H&S games get campaign settings/modules for complex scenarios? Never. The tone of the core rules set the tone of the edition. Please leave core rules alone so that people who want complex games have a foundation to work with and people who like simple games can use them as they are and just ignore all the stuff they don't care about. It might also surprise you, but there is more to fantasy than just Tolkien. Especially after 4E and the mass exodus of players you have to stop believing that D&D defines what fantasy is and instead you should look at the fantasy literature of the time to see what "accepted fantasy norms" are. And most of them today have more complex monsters than "always evil" orcs. [/QUOTE]

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