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<blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 5923491" data-attributes="member: 9249">I can and I am, because I have never heard of a genuine black-skinned geek complaining about this issue-- I have only ever heard of it coming from rich white college kids trying to expiate the shame of their privileged upbringing.Considering that 'human barbarians' are primarily based on Roman stereotypes about the Celtic and Germanic tribes that they were busy opp-- civilizing-- yes, I can say that they're being over-sensitive. Assuming that they really do exist, because once again, this is not an issue I have ever heard coming from real Native Americans, and not something any Native American I have ever played with has seen fit to mention to me.I will give you that it is better to be aware of the racist attitudes that produced some of our most endearing fantasy tropes-- the better to separate the fantasies from the realities-- but there's absolutely nothing to be gained from censoring those attitudes from our fiction. It doesn't make our fantasies more interesting or more appealing, and it doesn't make the specter of racism any less real for the people who have to deal with it in their real lives.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Viktyr Gehrig, post: 5923491, member: 9249"] I can and I am, because I have never heard of a genuine black-skinned geek complaining about this issue-- I have only ever heard of it coming from rich white college kids trying to expiate the shame of their privileged upbringing. Considering that 'human barbarians' are primarily based on Roman stereotypes about the Celtic and Germanic tribes that they were busy opp-- [b][i]civilizing[/i][/b]-- yes, I can say that they're being over-sensitive. Assuming that they really do exist, because once again, this is not an issue I have ever heard coming from real Native Americans, and not something any Native American I have ever played with has seen fit to mention to me. I will give you that it is better to be [b]aware[/b] of the racist attitudes that produced some of our most endearing fantasy tropes-- the better to separate the fantasies from the realities-- but there's absolutely nothing to be gained from censoring those attitudes from our fiction. It doesn't make our fantasies more interesting or more appealing, and it doesn't make the specter of racism any less real for the people who have to deal with it in their real lives. [/QUOTE]

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