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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5924064" data-attributes="member: 18182">Um, okay.I'd have to go back and re-read the thread, but I don't think anyone claimed that.&nbsp; Doesn't mean we can't be troubled by embedded racism in the game and work to change it.Censorship?&nbsp; I do not think the word means what you think it means.&nbsp; Insulting?&nbsp; Sheesh.I'll agree with you here, and even made the point upthread.&nbsp; Black-and-white vs nuanced isn't so much the problem, it's when they aren't used consistently and the players get confused.I've heard it from rich white college kids too, well, strike the &quot;rich&quot;.&nbsp; I've also heard it from black gamers.&nbsp; I'm white, it bothers me, and well, that's good enough for me!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Sorry, but some barbarian tribes in D&amp;D and fantasy literature are based on Roman stereotypes, but others are based on European stereotypes of Native Americans and other indigenous peoples.&nbsp; Over-sensitive?&nbsp; For someone who is &quot;insulted&quot; by all this &quot;PC talk&quot;, you sure throw around a lot of insulting language.&nbsp; You haven't heard it from &quot;real&quot; Native Americans?&nbsp; Go back and read the whole thread.Involving yourself in fantasy literature and/or gaming can be a way to deal with real world issues.&nbsp; In the game, you have power that you may not feel you have in the real world.&nbsp; I wouldn't judge anyone who acknowledged the embedded racism in D&amp;D, and then decided they were fine with it as is, and/or decided not to do anything about it.&nbsp; As I pointed out upthread, it's often subtle and very engrained in our culture.&nbsp; But for those of us who do care, it's very worthwhile.So there.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5924064, member: 18182"] Um, okay. I'd have to go back and re-read the thread, but I don't think anyone claimed that. Doesn't mean we can't be troubled by embedded racism in the game and work to change it. Censorship? I do not think the word means what you think it means. Insulting? Sheesh. I'll agree with you here, and even made the point upthread. Black-and-white vs nuanced isn't so much the problem, it's when they aren't used consistently and the players get confused. I've heard it from rich white college kids too, well, strike the "rich". I've also heard it from black gamers. I'm white, it bothers me, and well, that's good enough for me! :) Sorry, but some barbarian tribes in D&D and fantasy literature are based on Roman stereotypes, but others are based on European stereotypes of Native Americans and other indigenous peoples. Over-sensitive? For someone who is "insulted" by all this "PC talk", you sure throw around a lot of insulting language. You haven't heard it from "real" Native Americans? Go back and read the whole thread. Involving yourself in fantasy literature and/or gaming can be a way to deal with real world issues. In the game, you have power that you may not feel you have in the real world. I wouldn't judge anyone who acknowledged the embedded racism in D&D, and then decided they were fine with it as is, and/or decided not to do anything about it. As I pointed out upthread, it's often subtle and very engrained in our culture. But for those of us who do care, it's very worthwhile. So there. :) [/QUOTE]

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