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When Fiends Attack: Are Balors, Pit Fiends and Ultraloths too weak?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dualazi" data-source="post: 7015989" data-attributes="member: 6855537"><p>Translation: Strahd is cool until he actually tries to engage the party in combat, then he gets blown to smithereens. If this was just one poster’s experience I’d take it with a grain of salt, but there have been a plethora of testimonies here and elsewhere that Strahd is extremely fragile, and if you have the weapons he’s weak to (such as the Sun Sword) then many of those “cunning” tactics are disabled.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Better hope team PC doesn’t make that save then, because if they do then Strahd might not have the opportunity to fade back.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no DM that can play a character perfectly in such a way as to never have things go awry short of simply invoking DM fiat. I consider this a strength of the game, but similar to the above example, sometimes players simply resist his traps and charms. When they do so, I’d prefer the big boss of the entire campaign not fold like a house of cards, as others in this thread have attested to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So what you’re saying is a bunch of inexperienced and likely un-optimized players made silly tactical choices and paid for it? Shocking, that. </p><p></p><p>I’m not normally one to nitpick tone, but seriously dude, get off your high horse. D&D isn’t some master-crafted exhibition of the fine arts, it isn’t the “thinking man’s game”, and you’re not a wizened elder for capitalizing on people who don’t know better. This is a game where we crack open some drinks, eat snacks and pretend to be elves and (not)hobbits. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>“As it should be”, huh? I like the one-true-wayism thrown in at the last minute. To address your point though, no, there is a clear rift of what people consider balanced or not, based on any number of factors and virtually every aspect of the game has been nitpicked at some point or another on these boards, and presumably others.</p><p></p><p>More fundamentally, this isn’t even related to complaints about Strahd or 5e monsters at large, since it’s not like people are complaining that fighters in particular are putting him through the ringer, just that he getting demolished by parties in general. That has everything to do with monster design and nothing to do with whether the game is balanced or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dualazi, post: 7015989, member: 6855537"] Translation: Strahd is cool until he actually tries to engage the party in combat, then he gets blown to smithereens. If this was just one poster’s experience I’d take it with a grain of salt, but there have been a plethora of testimonies here and elsewhere that Strahd is extremely fragile, and if you have the weapons he’s weak to (such as the Sun Sword) then many of those “cunning” tactics are disabled. Better hope team PC doesn’t make that save then, because if they do then Strahd might not have the opportunity to fade back. There is no DM that can play a character perfectly in such a way as to never have things go awry short of simply invoking DM fiat. I consider this a strength of the game, but similar to the above example, sometimes players simply resist his traps and charms. When they do so, I’d prefer the big boss of the entire campaign not fold like a house of cards, as others in this thread have attested to. So what you’re saying is a bunch of inexperienced and likely un-optimized players made silly tactical choices and paid for it? Shocking, that. I’m not normally one to nitpick tone, but seriously dude, get off your high horse. D&D isn’t some master-crafted exhibition of the fine arts, it isn’t the “thinking man’s game”, and you’re not a wizened elder for capitalizing on people who don’t know better. This is a game where we crack open some drinks, eat snacks and pretend to be elves and (not)hobbits. “As it should be”, huh? I like the one-true-wayism thrown in at the last minute. To address your point though, no, there is a clear rift of what people consider balanced or not, based on any number of factors and virtually every aspect of the game has been nitpicked at some point or another on these boards, and presumably others. More fundamentally, this isn’t even related to complaints about Strahd or 5e monsters at large, since it’s not like people are complaining that fighters in particular are putting him through the ringer, just that he getting demolished by parties in general. That has everything to do with monster design and nothing to do with whether the game is balanced or not. [/QUOTE]
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