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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 7030709" data-attributes="member: 6786202">I ran a Balor fight against a group of 15th level PCs.It was basically a test from a high level NPC champion to see how tough they were - they were asking to ally with him. It was summoned down into an arena to fight them to the death. Fire rained down from the sky into the arena causing mini fireballs to fall in areas at random and burn.A tough fight you reckon? Nah.The Wizard cast Maze on it, the Bard cast Fly on the Paladin then jumped into the portable hole or bag of holding (which you can live in for 10 minutes). The Paladin buffed himself up a bit while the Balor was in the maze, and then when ready the Wizard dismissed the maze.The Paladins first attacks did something like 130 damage to it. The Wizard blinked out of existence into the ethereal plane. The Balor managed to catch the party Cleric in its whip and dragged her up into the sky, but the Paladin finished it off round #2. Yeah it exploded and did a bit of damage but they basically wasted it quite easily.I don't really think it's the Balor's fault this fight was a cake walk. Most high level creatures in D&D 5e are a cake walk for a party that knows what they're doing if they're solo - Dragons as well. You really need to add "minions" to most fights to make them challenging. This fight would have been WAY harder if it had a bunch of low level demons in the mix causing problems.Certain classes can burst a ridiculous amount of damage in a short period of time (such as Paladins) which make the whole CR scale quite wacky, depending on party resources.</blockquote>

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