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When is a campaign setting no longer relevant?
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<blockquote data-quote="Novem5er" data-source="post: 4828357" data-attributes="member: 57859"><p>For me, a setting is no longer relevant when <em>another</em> setting takes the same idea and does it <em>better</em>.</p><p></p><p>What "better" means would be hotly debated, but as a strong majority takes place and people en mass stop playing a setting... then it's no longer relevant.</p><p></p><p>"Better" to me would mean higher production values, better writing (more interesting, more drama, more color), and continuous support by the producing company.</p><p></p><p>Grayhawk vs. Forgotten Realms.</p><p></p><p>I have very little experience w/ Grayhawk, which makes me more qualified to talk about it's irreleventness than an old fan <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Grayhawk, to me, means standard European-based fantasy. I think of castles, knights, evil wizards, demons... and mainly bands of adventurers galloping horseback over green hills spotted with old forest. I don't know anything about the politics, cultures, nations, history. For me, it's unimportant when compared to the "now" of a campaign. Please, keep in mind that my impression of Grayhawk could be completely wrong, but it is the vision impressed upon me by 18 years of gaming.</p><p></p><p>Now, with Forgotten Realms, I get almost the exact same impression. The big difference is that I've read several books set in the Realms (old and recent publications), played in several FR campaigns, and have seen countless FR sourcebooks sitting on bookstore shelves and friend's tabletops.</p><p></p><p>Both Grayhawk and FR have the same general impression for me: European-based high fantasy. However, FR has the advantages of A) player support - i.e. active campaings, and B) company support - i.e. RP books and novels. For me, the 3e and 4e FR books have a much higher production value than the old GH books, simply because of updated art and print quality.</p><p></p><p>Could I be convinced to run or play a Grayhawk game? Absolutely! However, for me to buy any campaing books, I'd have to be convinced that it is either significantly <em>different</em> or <em>better</em> than the FR books I already own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Novem5er, post: 4828357, member: 57859"] For me, a setting is no longer relevant when [I]another[/I] setting takes the same idea and does it [I]better[/I]. What "better" means would be hotly debated, but as a strong majority takes place and people en mass stop playing a setting... then it's no longer relevant. "Better" to me would mean higher production values, better writing (more interesting, more drama, more color), and continuous support by the producing company. Grayhawk vs. Forgotten Realms. I have very little experience w/ Grayhawk, which makes me more qualified to talk about it's irreleventness than an old fan :) Grayhawk, to me, means standard European-based fantasy. I think of castles, knights, evil wizards, demons... and mainly bands of adventurers galloping horseback over green hills spotted with old forest. I don't know anything about the politics, cultures, nations, history. For me, it's unimportant when compared to the "now" of a campaign. Please, keep in mind that my impression of Grayhawk could be completely wrong, but it is the vision impressed upon me by 18 years of gaming. Now, with Forgotten Realms, I get almost the exact same impression. The big difference is that I've read several books set in the Realms (old and recent publications), played in several FR campaigns, and have seen countless FR sourcebooks sitting on bookstore shelves and friend's tabletops. Both Grayhawk and FR have the same general impression for me: European-based high fantasy. However, FR has the advantages of A) player support - i.e. active campaings, and B) company support - i.e. RP books and novels. For me, the 3e and 4e FR books have a much higher production value than the old GH books, simply because of updated art and print quality. Could I be convinced to run or play a Grayhawk game? Absolutely! However, for me to buy any campaing books, I'd have to be convinced that it is either significantly [I]different[/I] or [I]better[/I] than the FR books I already own. [/QUOTE]
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