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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4777910" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Well regarding that, if an enemy makes itself an invalid target, anything describing a target can't happen, so that includes Hit:, Miss:, and Effect: lines.</p><p></p><p>Basicly, a lot of the argument for 'Crescendo Sword can get itself back' is based around a lot of rules lawyering that purposefully take a blind eye to the full wording of the power and basic understanding of english. The argument smells like a bunch of fast talk trying to sell a used car as a new one. </p><p></p><p>It's filled with holes, and expects the game to work in ways that it doesn't, trying to break new rules ground. It feels, to me, like a method for getting a large number of uses of a daily power until you finally get an encounter power back. It's the sort of argument Munchkin McMinmaxer'd bring up to try to astound a DM who isn't used to this sort of milarky.</p><p></p><p>It's -really- simple.</p><p>Are you using the power? In the process of using the power? Yes.</p><p>Have you already used the power while you are using the power? No.</p><p></p><p>Does it make sense to have already done something you're currently doing? No. Do the rules make an exception to that in this case? No.</p><p></p><p>I don't understand how it could be interpreted any other way without willfully ignoring how the english language works. In the absense of game rules stating otherwise, sometimes you just need to apply common sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4777910, member: 71571"] Well regarding that, if an enemy makes itself an invalid target, anything describing a target can't happen, so that includes Hit:, Miss:, and Effect: lines. Basicly, a lot of the argument for 'Crescendo Sword can get itself back' is based around a lot of rules lawyering that purposefully take a blind eye to the full wording of the power and basic understanding of english. The argument smells like a bunch of fast talk trying to sell a used car as a new one. It's filled with holes, and expects the game to work in ways that it doesn't, trying to break new rules ground. It feels, to me, like a method for getting a large number of uses of a daily power until you finally get an encounter power back. It's the sort of argument Munchkin McMinmaxer'd bring up to try to astound a DM who isn't used to this sort of milarky. It's -really- simple. Are you using the power? In the process of using the power? Yes. Have you already used the power while you are using the power? No. Does it make sense to have already done something you're currently doing? No. Do the rules make an exception to that in this case? No. I don't understand how it could be interpreted any other way without willfully ignoring how the english language works. In the absense of game rules stating otherwise, sometimes you just need to apply common sense. [/QUOTE]
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