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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 3799764" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>The fluff changes don't bother me one iota. Mainly because I don't believe they will allow fluff to actually affect the mechanics (a mistake IMO). Given 3e's design, balancing the rules will almost certainly ignore whatever is described. If anything it will be rules, then description.</p><p></p><p>And if the world design has no connection to the rules, then we're free to use whatever fluff we want. Be that old school, new school, or your own school.</p><p></p><p>Is the implied setting learned by new players going to be different? Yeah, but when hasn't that been the case since the implied setting was "complete"? (and when was that? '77, '84, '93, '99, '07?)</p><p></p><p>D&D will keep changing its' story and people will keep buying into it and believing that one is the best story.</p><p></p><p>OTOH: Changing the mechanics changes how the game is played. A case for when is D&D not D&D is not about whether or not he is wearing the same clothes, but whether or not he is actually the same person. </p><p></p><p>So put me in the opposite camp. The rules are no longer D&D. The setting was Gygax. And then it was everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 3799764, member: 3192"] The fluff changes don't bother me one iota. Mainly because I don't believe they will allow fluff to actually affect the mechanics (a mistake IMO). Given 3e's design, balancing the rules will almost certainly ignore whatever is described. If anything it will be rules, then description. And if the world design has no connection to the rules, then we're free to use whatever fluff we want. Be that old school, new school, or your own school. Is the implied setting learned by new players going to be different? Yeah, but when hasn't that been the case since the implied setting was "complete"? (and when was that? '77, '84, '93, '99, '07?) D&D will keep changing its' story and people will keep buying into it and believing that one is the best story. OTOH: Changing the mechanics changes how the game is played. A case for when is D&D not D&D is not about whether or not he is wearing the same clothes, but whether or not he is actually the same person. So put me in the opposite camp. The rules are no longer D&D. The setting was Gygax. And then it was everyone. [/QUOTE]
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