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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 1535138" data-attributes="member: 3139">Only weapons and armor don't modify. Everything else does.Why would you ever leave bear form? (Rhetorical question. Obviously, two times a day you need to change to human to get some high-fantasy role-playing in, so that you can weep about it for years afterwards. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> )Or why would you ever leave hybrid form? (Rhetorical as well.)Why would you use weapons when you can grapple?That is a +16 to Strength! (+8 mod, +4 from animal HD, -1 size is far better than a 9th level fighter could have.) You are large! I'd saw off my right yin-yang to play one of these!&nbsp; I think there is a mistaken impression that the only effective grapplers are monks. Anything with a natural attack, that is large (enlarge person works now woohoo!), with improved grab, and a high strength works just as well. Pinning an opponent (spellcasters especially) is the same as a dead opponent.Again with the weapons? Why? A natural attack with improved grab, and, a +16 Str and large nonetheless. It screams, &quot;I grapple you! I eat you!&quot;Vulnerable to surprise? Bleh...Anything that would worry a wearbear about surprise would probably TPK the whole party. (Especially if the bad guys know enough about the party makeup to bring silver weapons.)Even without armor, a wearbear has a +7 natural armor that stacks with an enhancement bonus. Can fighter-boy do that?I'd much rather have a werebear tank in my party than a 9th level human fighter (or barbarian, or ranger, or paladin, or monk, or bard.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 1535138, member: 3139"] Only weapons and armor don't modify. Everything else does. Why would you ever leave bear form? (Rhetorical question. Obviously, two times a day you need to change to human to get some high-fantasy role-playing in, so that you can weep about it for years afterwards. :heh: ) Or why would you ever leave hybrid form? (Rhetorical as well.) Why would you use weapons when you can grapple? That is a [B]+16[/B] to Strength! (+8 mod, +4 from animal HD, -1 size is far better than a 9th level fighter could have.) You are [b]large[/b]! I'd saw off my right yin-yang to play one of these! I think there is a mistaken impression that the only effective grapplers are monks. Anything with a natural attack, that is large (enlarge person works now woohoo!), with improved grab, and a high strength works just as well. Pinning an opponent (spellcasters especially) is the same as a dead opponent. Again with the weapons? Why? A natural attack with improved grab, and, a +16 Str and large nonetheless. It screams, "I grapple you! I eat you!" Vulnerable to surprise? Bleh... Anything that would worry a wearbear about surprise would probably TPK the whole party. (Especially if the bad guys know enough about the party makeup to bring silver weapons.) Even without armor, a wearbear has a +7 natural armor that stacks with an enhancement bonus. Can fighter-boy do that? I'd much rather have a werebear tank in my party than a 9th level human fighter (or barbarian, or ranger, or paladin, or monk, or bard.) [/QUOTE]

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