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<blockquote data-quote="scourger" data-source="post: 1568823" data-attributes="member: 12328"><p>Lots of good advice here! I'll add my two cents. You are correct that people DM the same style they like to play. A good frame of reference is the study Breakdown of RPG Players found at this link:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/gaming/BreakdownOfRPGPlayers.html" target="_blank">http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/gaming/BreakdownOfRPGPlayers.html</a></p><p></p><p>From that perspective, I found that I was more of a Power Gamer playing & DMing among friends who are more Thinkers, Character Actors & Storytellers. I don't think anyone is all one "type", but I find most people favor one style. The import of all this is that people play for different reasons and with different styles. More fundamentally, each player & DM draws more enjoyment from a particular style. </p><p></p><p>So, it sounds as if your player and future DM enjoys the Power Gamer Style of play (with some Thinker thrown in). Character Acting and Story telling seem less important to him than to the rest of your group. He is just fine with min/maxed PCs and NPCs going head-to-head with each other and monsters for the immediate gain of winning the current combat.</p><p></p><p>The good news is that it's okay. I find that, once acknowledged, the different style don't have to conflict but can be complementary. For instance, I have had more fun once I adjusted my style of play to be less Power Gamer and more centered; and (I think) the other players are still having fun without as much style conflict. You may find similar enjoyment from altering your style away from Character actor and Storyteller toward Power Gamer and Thinker for his game. </p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I also find that most players are fully in touch with their Strategist (or min/maxer) side when constructing a character. Most of the players I know that profess to be Storytellers are more Strategists than they care to admit. So, I am not quick to condemn min/maxing because everyone does it to some extent; and it can add enjoyment to the game.</p><p></p><p>You might also share the article with him (as we did in our group). The dialogue can be helpful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scourger, post: 1568823, member: 12328"] Lots of good advice here! I'll add my two cents. You are correct that people DM the same style they like to play. A good frame of reference is the study Breakdown of RPG Players found at this link: [url]http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/gaming/BreakdownOfRPGPlayers.html[/url] From that perspective, I found that I was more of a Power Gamer playing & DMing among friends who are more Thinkers, Character Actors & Storytellers. I don't think anyone is all one "type", but I find most people favor one style. The import of all this is that people play for different reasons and with different styles. More fundamentally, each player & DM draws more enjoyment from a particular style. So, it sounds as if your player and future DM enjoys the Power Gamer Style of play (with some Thinker thrown in). Character Acting and Story telling seem less important to him than to the rest of your group. He is just fine with min/maxed PCs and NPCs going head-to-head with each other and monsters for the immediate gain of winning the current combat. The good news is that it's okay. I find that, once acknowledged, the different style don't have to conflict but can be complementary. For instance, I have had more fun once I adjusted my style of play to be less Power Gamer and more centered; and (I think) the other players are still having fun without as much style conflict. You may find similar enjoyment from altering your style away from Character actor and Storyteller toward Power Gamer and Thinker for his game. Incidentally, I also find that most players are fully in touch with their Strategist (or min/maxer) side when constructing a character. Most of the players I know that profess to be Storytellers are more Strategists than they care to admit. So, I am not quick to condemn min/maxing because everyone does it to some extent; and it can add enjoyment to the game. You might also share the article with him (as we did in our group). The dialogue can be helpful. [/QUOTE]
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