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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7830854" data-attributes="member: 97077">Any moment within the duration of the spell, provided the spell was cast at the start of the task in my view and doesn't run out before the task is complete. Again, the check isn't a thing in the fiction. In order to get the benefit of the spell, the task must take place within the duration of the spell. A 10-minute task won't benefit from a 1-minute duration guidance spell, even if the caster spams it 10 times.If I understand you correctly, casting after the roll would still be a house rule though, on par with making the spell a 1st-level slot or otherwise altering it. I believe my take is not a house rule. It's how the game is meant to work. Not that I'm opposed necessarily to house ruling. It's just that I find concerns about this spell in particular is always a clue to me as to how people run their games. If people have problems with it, I can figure out pretty easily how they think of tasks and checks, generally speaking, and whether players are asking to make or declaring they are making ability checks.The spamming issue comes from not assigning a time to the task and, usually in my experience, thinking of tasks as checks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7830854, member: 97077"] Any moment within the duration of the spell, provided the spell was cast at the start of the task in my view and doesn't run out before the task is complete. Again, the check isn't a thing in the fiction. In order to get the benefit of the spell, the task must take place within the duration of the spell. A 10-minute task won't benefit from a 1-minute duration guidance spell, even if the caster spams it 10 times. If I understand you correctly, casting after the roll would still be a house rule though, on par with making the spell a 1st-level slot or otherwise altering it. I believe my take is not a house rule. It's how the game is meant to work. Not that I'm opposed necessarily to house ruling. It's just that I find concerns about this spell in particular is always a clue to me as to how people run their games. If people have problems with it, I can figure out pretty easily how they think of tasks and checks, generally speaking, and whether players are asking to make or declaring they are making ability checks. The spamming issue comes from not assigning a time to the task and, usually in my experience, thinking of tasks as checks. [/QUOTE]

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