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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7831098" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>As I state a couple posts above, there is no explicit requirement, but it is implicit in the core resolution mechanic in that tasks and checks are different things. You can have a task without a check, but not a check without a task. But a check is not a task, nor a task a check. Checks don't exist in the game world.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because the check doesn't exist in the game world, it does not occur at any particular point in time. Therefore, for the outcome of the task to be affected by the spell or class feature, it follows that the task must be started and end within the duration of the spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Technically, the ability check is not part of Step 2. It's somewhere between Step 2 and Step 3, if there is an ability check at all. The problem is that the "critical moment," if you mean that to be when the ability check is made, does not exist in the context of the game world. If you are saying that the ability check does occur at some point in the fiction, that is a house rule because there is nothing to my knowledge that says when an ability check happens when a task is being undertaken. It happens at the table, not in the game world. The spell or class feature happens in the game world and improves the chances of success in the task by affecting the dice at the table. To square this all up and to avoid conflating tasks and checks, the task must be started and completed within the duration of the spell or class feature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7831098, member: 97077"] As I state a couple posts above, there is no explicit requirement, but it is implicit in the core resolution mechanic in that tasks and checks are different things. You can have a task without a check, but not a check without a task. But a check is not a task, nor a task a check. Checks don't exist in the game world. Because the check doesn't exist in the game world, it does not occur at any particular point in time. Therefore, for the outcome of the task to be affected by the spell or class feature, it follows that the task must be started and end within the duration of the spell. Technically, the ability check is not part of Step 2. It's somewhere between Step 2 and Step 3, if there is an ability check at all. The problem is that the "critical moment," if you mean that to be when the ability check is made, does not exist in the context of the game world. If you are saying that the ability check does occur at some point in the fiction, that is a house rule because there is nothing to my knowledge that says when an ability check happens when a task is being undertaken. It happens at the table, not in the game world. The spell or class feature happens in the game world and improves the chances of success in the task by affecting the dice at the table. To square this all up and to avoid conflating tasks and checks, the task must be started and completed within the duration of the spell or class feature. [/QUOTE]
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