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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7831691" data-attributes="member: 97077">At the risk of repeating myself, the task is the thing that matters since the ability check is the thing that helps the DM determine the outcome of the task and the ability check doesn't exist in the game world. Therefore, it doesn't occur at any particular point in time in the game world. Thus we have to go back to the task to judge whether guidance can affect the outcome. And it does - for tasks that begin and end within the spell's duration.It's neither Step 2 nor Step 3 is the point. You had said previously as I recall that it was part of Step 2. There's nothing that say that in the rules. It's somewhere between 2 and 3, but part of neither.Essentially, no. A player declares an intention to do a task. Before doing so, the caster casts guidance on that player's character. Or as I mentioned upthread, the player might say &quot;I do X&quot; and the player of the caster says &quot;Before you do that, I cast guidance on you.&quot; What you can't do in my view is cast the spell anytime after someone starts to undertake the task and gain the benefit of the spell regardless of the task's duration. The task must start and finish within the spell's duration. This means no guidance spamming. Guidance is still a very useful spell, just not useful for all tasks. And that seems about right for a cantrip, doesn't it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7831691, member: 97077"] At the risk of repeating myself, the task is the thing that matters since the ability check is the thing that helps the DM determine the outcome of the task and the ability check doesn't exist in the game world. Therefore, it doesn't occur at any particular point in time in the game world. Thus we have to go back to the task to judge whether guidance can affect the outcome. And it does - for tasks that begin and end within the spell's duration. It's neither Step 2 nor Step 3 is the point. You had said previously as I recall that it was part of Step 2. There's nothing that say that in the rules. It's somewhere between 2 and 3, but part of neither. Essentially, no. A player declares an intention to do a task. Before doing so, the caster casts guidance on that player's character. Or as I mentioned upthread, the player might say "I do X" and the player of the caster says "Before you do that, I cast guidance on you." What you can't do in my view is cast the spell anytime after someone starts to undertake the task and gain the benefit of the spell regardless of the task's duration. The task must start and finish within the spell's duration. This means no guidance spamming. Guidance is still a very useful spell, just not useful for all tasks. And that seems about right for a cantrip, doesn't it? [/QUOTE]

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