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<blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5821102" data-attributes="member: 10784"><p>Interesting thread - thanks for starting it.</p><p></p><p>I remember maybe 13 years ago, after we finished up a fantastic 2E campaign (set in The Kingdoms of Kalamar, by the way), we moved on to another setting (forgot what it was), but the DM made clear up front that slavery was common and most nobles had slaves, etc.</p><p></p><p>However, most of the group just couldn't get a handle on that idea, even though we were all veteran players. Just because of how everybody was raised and taught history, we tend to think anybody that owns slaves as evil. We're in Connecticut as well, so that mindset is doubly enforced since we were on the Union side in the Civil War. (Heck, abolitionist John Brown was born 2 towns over from where I live now...)</p><p></p><p>Needless to say, that campaign did *not* get off to a good start, and soon tanked (we had a lot of trouble starting anew after such a great campaign before - but, that's another issue.)</p><p></p><p>However, I recently finished a long-running 3.5E campaign that was set in Kalamar as well. I made it clear up front that slavery was pretty commonplace and that one couldn't go about freeing every slave they met - one player was a Paladin of Freedom dedicated to The Guardian, and even he didn't cross the line in that regards, even though The Guardian is dedicated to wiping out slavery. However, the focal point of the campaign was defeating the followers of The Overlord, whose priests were the focal point of the slave trade in Kalamar, so he at least had the long-term satisfaction of doing more to free the slaves that way than going about freeing every single slave they met.</p><p></p><p>(On a side note, racism and xenophobia was prevalent in the campaign at times as well - in the very first session, the group got pelted with rotten fruit and tossed in the clink for a night because of them was an elf. "Watch out for rotten tomatoes" was a running joke for the next two years...)</p><p></p><p>So, I do think it's tough to overcome modern day morals at times.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewJeffCT, post: 5821102, member: 10784"] Interesting thread - thanks for starting it. I remember maybe 13 years ago, after we finished up a fantastic 2E campaign (set in The Kingdoms of Kalamar, by the way), we moved on to another setting (forgot what it was), but the DM made clear up front that slavery was common and most nobles had slaves, etc. However, most of the group just couldn't get a handle on that idea, even though we were all veteran players. Just because of how everybody was raised and taught history, we tend to think anybody that owns slaves as evil. We're in Connecticut as well, so that mindset is doubly enforced since we were on the Union side in the Civil War. (Heck, abolitionist John Brown was born 2 towns over from where I live now...) Needless to say, that campaign did *not* get off to a good start, and soon tanked (we had a lot of trouble starting anew after such a great campaign before - but, that's another issue.) However, I recently finished a long-running 3.5E campaign that was set in Kalamar as well. I made it clear up front that slavery was pretty commonplace and that one couldn't go about freeing every slave they met - one player was a Paladin of Freedom dedicated to The Guardian, and even he didn't cross the line in that regards, even though The Guardian is dedicated to wiping out slavery. However, the focal point of the campaign was defeating the followers of The Overlord, whose priests were the focal point of the slave trade in Kalamar, so he at least had the long-term satisfaction of doing more to free the slaves that way than going about freeing every single slave they met. (On a side note, racism and xenophobia was prevalent in the campaign at times as well - in the very first session, the group got pelted with rotten fruit and tossed in the clink for a night because of them was an elf. "Watch out for rotten tomatoes" was a running joke for the next two years...) So, I do think it's tough to overcome modern day morals at times. [/QUOTE]
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