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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5822430" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>In the cleric situation it was mostly handled in character with the exception of one player who still brings it up three years later. He uses it to say things like okay so let me get this straight in the cause of good I can kill innocents or torture them now that I have become a lawful good knight. </p><p></p><p>It drives the DM crazy. First of all the clerics were not innocent nor where they tortured. </p><p></p><p>She is going nuts trying to work out a code for him to follow because of this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The second issue is a player issue. I would like to say that I have not had the opportunity to role play it out with them in character. All of this is happening out of game between the DM and them.</p><p></p><p>They want the DM to take away any XP I got and the reward I got because they don't think it is fair that I got rewarded for as they put it acting out at the table. They don't think it is fair because I had inside knowledge they didn't. That inside knowledge being I remembered how things are supposed to work in the setting and I remembered all our other encounters with the guards. </p><p></p><p>Now maybe the DM should have handled it better at the table she could have called for a check from them to remember how things work. But I don't feel like it is fair to penalize me because I remembered and acted on that memory. </p><p></p><p>The reason I am being pissy over the walking away is this I have played with the one guy for 16 years and one of the things he does is do as I say not as I do. He would trow a huge hissy fit and refuse to continue adventuring with someone who walked away like that. I know this because he has done it in another game. Most of the time I just let things roll of my back. We are good friends out of game and I accept that sometimes friends do things things that annoy you .</p><p></p><p>If the upshot of the last encounter had just been the game ended and we played out the consequences in character next session I would have just shrugged his walking off as another case of do as I say not as I do and moved forward. After 16 years I accept that he does this I can't change him and as long as it does not come up all the time then I can deal with it. </p><p></p><p>But that is not what has happened they are both angry and feel as if they were screwed over and I am not sure everything they want. The DM has asked well what would fix this and other then to strip me of any rewards they can't answer other than they want the DM to admit that both she and I were wrong on how we interpreted what was happening at the encounter. </p><p></p><p>Which she can't they were not real city guards she was playing them mouthing off to my character as clue that something was wrong. She has apologized and said that in the future she will make an effort to remind them how things work that she is sorry she didn't run the encounter better and is sorry for the miscommunication. But that is not good enough they want me to also admit I did something wrong in my choice of actions as a player. </p><p></p><p>I am not going to do that because I didn't. I played my 500 year old noble elf sorcerer in character I played the setting as it has been presented to us and I picked up on the clues the DM was putting out. </p><p></p><p>I am willing to move forward and just let things go but I refuse to apologize when I did not do anything wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 5822430, member: 9037"] In the cleric situation it was mostly handled in character with the exception of one player who still brings it up three years later. He uses it to say things like okay so let me get this straight in the cause of good I can kill innocents or torture them now that I have become a lawful good knight. It drives the DM crazy. First of all the clerics were not innocent nor where they tortured. She is going nuts trying to work out a code for him to follow because of this. The second issue is a player issue. I would like to say that I have not had the opportunity to role play it out with them in character. All of this is happening out of game between the DM and them. They want the DM to take away any XP I got and the reward I got because they don't think it is fair that I got rewarded for as they put it acting out at the table. They don't think it is fair because I had inside knowledge they didn't. That inside knowledge being I remembered how things are supposed to work in the setting and I remembered all our other encounters with the guards. Now maybe the DM should have handled it better at the table she could have called for a check from them to remember how things work. But I don't feel like it is fair to penalize me because I remembered and acted on that memory. The reason I am being pissy over the walking away is this I have played with the one guy for 16 years and one of the things he does is do as I say not as I do. He would trow a huge hissy fit and refuse to continue adventuring with someone who walked away like that. I know this because he has done it in another game. Most of the time I just let things roll of my back. We are good friends out of game and I accept that sometimes friends do things things that annoy you . If the upshot of the last encounter had just been the game ended and we played out the consequences in character next session I would have just shrugged his walking off as another case of do as I say not as I do and moved forward. After 16 years I accept that he does this I can't change him and as long as it does not come up all the time then I can deal with it. But that is not what has happened they are both angry and feel as if they were screwed over and I am not sure everything they want. The DM has asked well what would fix this and other then to strip me of any rewards they can't answer other than they want the DM to admit that both she and I were wrong on how we interpreted what was happening at the encounter. Which she can't they were not real city guards she was playing them mouthing off to my character as clue that something was wrong. She has apologized and said that in the future she will make an effort to remind them how things work that she is sorry she didn't run the encounter better and is sorry for the miscommunication. But that is not good enough they want me to also admit I did something wrong in my choice of actions as a player. I am not going to do that because I didn't. I played my 500 year old noble elf sorcerer in character I played the setting as it has been presented to us and I picked up on the clues the DM was putting out. I am willing to move forward and just let things go but I refuse to apologize when I did not do anything wrong. [/QUOTE]
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