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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5823625" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>Yes it is. Though that situatiom did not cause the ruckus this one did. He ended up in prison for it and the rest of us had to take a mission that lead to the whole cleric killing evil clerics bit. Though if the player who was playing the dwarf had been there he would have slit their throats before the cleric had the chance to.</p><p></p><p>For him it is not so much a matter of modern VS fantasy ethics it is more of what is the best tactical way to handle something in game terms. He has no issue with breaking into homes and killing NPCs because that is what PC rogues do. Killing prisoners is fine because if they are evil you kill them take their stuff and get XP. He has issues when you turn things like this around. </p><p></p><p>He is upset because in his opinion it is not smart for PCs to go around casting spells on city guards or in public in a big city because it draws attention to the party and that is something you should never do just like you never split the party. Or it is wrong for the party cleric not to heal you just because you offended his god. </p><p></p><p>He does not enjoy inter party conflict or dealing with any sort of moral dilemma in game. He likes cool abilities and killings things and taking their stuff. he will tolerate to some extent moral dilemma and heavier role playing because others like it. You have to balance it with what he enjoys. </p><p></p><p>If he gets upset he usually lets it go very fast and he does not carry a grudge he has already apologized for Sunday and at this point just wants to let it go. Though he did ask the DM to remind him if he forgets stuff again.</p><p></p><p>It is the other player who has the biggest issues with modern VS fantasy thinking he also is one to have issues not letting things go. </p><p></p><p>My table have really no issues when dealing with having different moral views in the game settings. I just make sure to keep the communication open and if I notice an issue I stop and discuss it. </p><p></p><p>Broken Druid is learning how to DM and this is one area she admits she needs to become better at she tends to get wrapped up in with what the NPCs are doing that she doesn't notice that things are going sidewise until it has in a big way. </p><p></p><p>I don't think we need to ditch them I think that the DM needs to take a break for awhile because I see signs of burn out. </p><p></p><p>Like I said we have been playing with the one guy for 16 years and I can count on one hand where there have been issues. </p><p></p><p>I think the other guy is someone I am beginning to realize that I don't want to play DnD with I would rather play Shadowrun or a modern setting where this kind of thing does not come up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 5823625, member: 9037"] Yes it is. Though that situatiom did not cause the ruckus this one did. He ended up in prison for it and the rest of us had to take a mission that lead to the whole cleric killing evil clerics bit. Though if the player who was playing the dwarf had been there he would have slit their throats before the cleric had the chance to. For him it is not so much a matter of modern VS fantasy ethics it is more of what is the best tactical way to handle something in game terms. He has no issue with breaking into homes and killing NPCs because that is what PC rogues do. Killing prisoners is fine because if they are evil you kill them take their stuff and get XP. He has issues when you turn things like this around. He is upset because in his opinion it is not smart for PCs to go around casting spells on city guards or in public in a big city because it draws attention to the party and that is something you should never do just like you never split the party. Or it is wrong for the party cleric not to heal you just because you offended his god. He does not enjoy inter party conflict or dealing with any sort of moral dilemma in game. He likes cool abilities and killings things and taking their stuff. he will tolerate to some extent moral dilemma and heavier role playing because others like it. You have to balance it with what he enjoys. If he gets upset he usually lets it go very fast and he does not carry a grudge he has already apologized for Sunday and at this point just wants to let it go. Though he did ask the DM to remind him if he forgets stuff again. It is the other player who has the biggest issues with modern VS fantasy thinking he also is one to have issues not letting things go. My table have really no issues when dealing with having different moral views in the game settings. I just make sure to keep the communication open and if I notice an issue I stop and discuss it. Broken Druid is learning how to DM and this is one area she admits she needs to become better at she tends to get wrapped up in with what the NPCs are doing that she doesn't notice that things are going sidewise until it has in a big way. I don't think we need to ditch them I think that the DM needs to take a break for awhile because I see signs of burn out. Like I said we have been playing with the one guy for 16 years and I can count on one hand where there have been issues. I think the other guy is someone I am beginning to realize that I don't want to play DnD with I would rather play Shadowrun or a modern setting where this kind of thing does not come up. [/QUOTE]
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