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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5826132" data-attributes="member: 9037">And players who refuse to give the DM a break are heading to a game with no DM. So many players treat the DM like they are some kind of freaking servant and they are not they deserve to enjoy the game too. To me this is the issue if you as a player agree to play in a DMs game then you should be willing to accept how the DM runs it if you don't like it you can talk to the DM and if you still don't like you can either accept it or leave or offer to run a game.Again here is what I think some of you are not getting. The DM is not telling these people how to play their characters if they want to play a character with  modern ethics fine. But that does not mean that society as a whole are going to agree with you and you are going to have to accept that or try role playing to change their minds. Say Airn really hates what Tristran did with the evil clerics he has a choice he can have it out with the other character, he can try and kick that character out of the party or he can choose to leave the party. He can try and complain to the King or the church authority, but if he does that and expects to have any kind of change he better have more going into it than killing prisoners is wrong. He needs to have a compelling reason for the church and the King to see what Tristran did as wrong. It could be an actually cool role playing moment for Sean's character Airn. Of course Tristran can get up there and defend his actions.Stuff like this can be role playing gold.   But what is not fun is a player taking it out of game and demanding that the DM change how the setting works because he does not agree that a good society would be run this way. Player disagreeing with DM over ethics in campaign world is bad. Characters disagreeing with other characters both PCs and NPCs over ethics in campaign world good.</blockquote>

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