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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5827304" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>If you are watching with a group of people and you are the only one having an issue with the movie then yes it is rude of you to expect to have your way. What you should do is leave the room. </p><p></p><p>But the DM a good DM plays the NPCs with some kind of consistency. He doesn't change the NPCs reaction based solely on the fact they he is facing a PC. The slave trader NPC is not going to say hey go ahead and free my slaves I won't fight you because you are a PC and I am an NPC. If the law of the land says no one may enter the throne room with a weapon unless they are a member of the royal guard then why should the NPC change that just because you are a PC? Now if it because the King called for you because he needs you then I can see a negotiation over it but that is not the same as just being allowed because you are the PCs.</p><p></p><p>And again I would like to point out that in our game the DM has not told any player how to feel about things if they want to hate the whole idea of the Knights of the Rose that is fine. They can even in character try and find people who agree and try and put a stop to it. But they shouldn't just expect every NPC to agree with them just because they are the PC. </p><p></p><p>Slavery is legal in Kalamar I have played in several campaigns and run several I have never been told by any DM nor have I told my players that they have to be okay with it. It has been left up to the players on how to react to it.</p><p></p><p>Here seems to be the disconnect you seem to think that I believe and my DM believes that we should be able to tell the players how their characters feel and think about our setting. And no we are not saying that. What we feel is that we present the setting the players choose how to react to it and if they choose to go against the norm that is perfectly acceptable. But going against a society norm can be a rough road to walk hence my whole tax example. </p><p></p><p>If you believe that all men are created equal ad the King is a stickler for tradition then you have to expect it might be complicated to get him to deal with you if you break the social mores of the kingdom. Expecting him to just throw out his social mores with no other reason than you are the PC is not good enough and imo bad role playing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 5827304, member: 9037"] If you are watching with a group of people and you are the only one having an issue with the movie then yes it is rude of you to expect to have your way. What you should do is leave the room. But the DM a good DM plays the NPCs with some kind of consistency. He doesn't change the NPCs reaction based solely on the fact they he is facing a PC. The slave trader NPC is not going to say hey go ahead and free my slaves I won't fight you because you are a PC and I am an NPC. If the law of the land says no one may enter the throne room with a weapon unless they are a member of the royal guard then why should the NPC change that just because you are a PC? Now if it because the King called for you because he needs you then I can see a negotiation over it but that is not the same as just being allowed because you are the PCs. And again I would like to point out that in our game the DM has not told any player how to feel about things if they want to hate the whole idea of the Knights of the Rose that is fine. They can even in character try and find people who agree and try and put a stop to it. But they shouldn't just expect every NPC to agree with them just because they are the PC. Slavery is legal in Kalamar I have played in several campaigns and run several I have never been told by any DM nor have I told my players that they have to be okay with it. It has been left up to the players on how to react to it. Here seems to be the disconnect you seem to think that I believe and my DM believes that we should be able to tell the players how their characters feel and think about our setting. And no we are not saying that. What we feel is that we present the setting the players choose how to react to it and if they choose to go against the norm that is perfectly acceptable. But going against a society norm can be a rough road to walk hence my whole tax example. If you believe that all men are created equal ad the King is a stickler for tradition then you have to expect it might be complicated to get him to deal with you if you break the social mores of the kingdom. Expecting him to just throw out his social mores with no other reason than you are the PC is not good enough and imo bad role playing. [/QUOTE]
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