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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5827639" data-attributes="member: 9037">In my game there are no heroes like Conan or Raistlan my PCs will one day be the heroes of legend. The PC cleric is the only cleric to be able to cast divine magic in over a thousand years.When I DM  most of the time my players know that I scale the world because I personally hate the whole I am 10th level adventurer I can now kick around the king and his army. And they are ok with it so there is no issue. But they also don't like the whole adventures as tyrants style of play. They like the feeling of knowing that there are always risks involved no matter their level. Hers is the disconnect I am seeing on this. People seem to have this idea that the DM wants it one way and all the players want it another. Now when that happens you have a big issue. If the DM wants to run King Arthur and all the players want Conan everyone at the table is frustrated and unhappy.  In that case the DM can say what the hay I will run it Conan or the players can say hey we will try King Arthur. But if neither side really wants to change then there is no way to really fix it.But what happens if the DM and some of the players want it one way and one or two of the players don't. That is the issue. As for I refuse to go to my knee style character. If all the players are playing this style then maybe the DM needs to rethink having a world where it is expected to bow to royalty.But what if it is one player who feels this way and the rest of the table does not do you allow that one player to dictate how it is going to be? You can kick him out of the game or you can allow the characters to handle it. They can tell the guy you are not going to the king with us. If he mouths off to the wrong noble the party can try and migrate the incident by stepping in and role playing out hey please ignore him he is not right in the head .If the DM makes a world like this and a player wants to play a character who takes no knee he and the DM need to discuss it. The player needs to know well if you do that this all these things that can happen in this society. If he knows all of that and is still willing to play the character that way then he should not get angry when it happens to him.If the player wants to play this style character because he thinks it will be cool to effect change the DM needs to know this and let the player know if it is a possibility or if the DM really does not want to handle this in this campaign.</blockquote>

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