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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5391969" data-attributes="member: 92511">Holy gods.And we'll finish here. This is the sort of rant you don't want to make. Well, you may want to make it, but it's inappropriate here. Whether you agree or disagree with someone, becoming condescending and insulting because they disagree with you is never okay. It's fine for people to disagree with you, seriously - just report the post if they're jerks about it, and use the Ignore function judiciously. Replying in kind only makes the situation worse. Please ping me with any questions. We'd prefer not to see a reoccurrance of this sort of argument. - PiratecatOk. Look kiddles, I am not interested in arguing with anyone on these boards about, frankly, anything. Particularly what's &quot;written&quot; or &quot;intended&quot; or &quot;I intend&quot; or what &quot;Prone&quot; isn't or &quot;Helpless&quot; is, what action means versus action&nbsp; or that save doesn't count as an action (which, believe it or not, I knew)...and which action is it? There's already 5, why not one more? Hell, make it 10! Nice round number....Seriously?!&nbsp; &nbsp; I was responding to the Original Poster's scenario and question...&nbsp;...which I agree with. A stunned character &quot;wouldn't be able to react...&quot; That is what makes sense...regardless of what page XYZ of the QRS says or who's RAI is another person's RAII.Given the situation presented, that would be my call...and the OP seems to have enough common sense/gut reaction to make what, to my opinion, would be a correct determination, initially.He wants to look it up or find some relevant RAW, then maybe he'll change his call/the way he runs his game. That's up to him. I, probably, would not. I'd make the call, play through the round, probably lose my BBEG to some successful tactics by my players, curse my luck of the dice for failing the save on the Sound Burst, and we'd move on.Now, I'll leave you to your RAW-lawyering, munchki-teering and RAI-ghteous indignation. Enjoy.--SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5391969, member: 92511"] Holy gods. [b][color=red]And we'll finish here. This is the sort of rant you don't want to make. Well, you may [i]want[/i] to make it, but it's inappropriate here. Whether you agree or disagree with someone, becoming condescending and insulting because they disagree with you is never okay. It's fine for people to disagree with you, seriously - just report the post if they're jerks about it, and use the Ignore function judiciously. Replying in kind only makes the situation worse. Please ping me with any questions. We'd prefer not to see a reoccurrance of this sort of argument. - Piratecat[/color][/b][color=red][/color] Ok. Look kiddles, I am not interested in arguing with anyone on these boards about, frankly, anything. Particularly what's "written" or "intended" or "I intend" or what "Prone" isn't or "Helpless" is, what action means versus action or that save doesn't count as an action (which, believe it or not, I knew)...and which action is it? There's already 5, why not one more? Hell, make it 10! Nice round number. ...Seriously?! I was responding to the Original Poster's scenario and question... ...which I agree with. A stunned character "wouldn't be able to react..." That is what makes sense...regardless of what page XYZ of the QRS says or who's RAI is another person's RAII. Given the situation presented, that would be my call...and the OP seems to have enough common sense/gut reaction to make what, to my opinion, would be a correct determination, initially. He wants to look it up or find some relevant RAW, then maybe he'll change his call/the way he runs his game. That's up to him. I, probably, would not. I'd make the call, play through the round, probably lose my BBEG to some successful tactics by my players, curse my luck of the dice for failing the save on the Sound Burst, and we'd move on. Now, I'll leave you to your RAW-lawyering, munchki-teering and RAI-ghteous indignation. Enjoy. --SD [/QUOTE]

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