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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasper" data-source="post: 2891293" data-attributes="member: 277">i have to disagree with you Thornir. It does not appear to be a control issue but an issue of who has the final say in the game. the dm does. Yes always let the player know why he nixes stuff. Now some dm are diplomatic and can say no because of not fitting campaign work. Others can not layout why the stuff gets a no vote. Some players will not take no for an answer no matter how much a dm sugar coats the reason.  On line I do cut to the chase and say no. But this comes for the experience of having players take issue will every reason I gave. Ex. Player wanted a M1 tank in WW2  game. And hated the rule that subs were visible from the air.</blockquote>