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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7965406" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>he creature statblock cutout section I included was from 3.5 & i'd be shocked if 4e didn't do some explicit differentiation for various creature abilities I wouldn't have considered it magic either, but 5e does not define a breath weapon as <em>anything</em>. There is no question that it's not a "creature". Is it an object like a campfire affected by reverse gravity or a torch/vial of acid/etc?... maybe? Is it a spell?... maybe?... is it a.. oops there are no more types defined in 5e. So in the many cases where is it X is important you don't have a strong case for ruling out spell <em>or</em> object due to the lack of anything else. Not only is it an undefined nothing it and so much more is an unfinished null state rather than an explicit nothing .</p><p></p><p>Instead of asking "why are <u>other</u> people thinking it's magic" turn the question around on yourself and <strong>you</strong> clearly make a case for what <u><em>specifically</em></u> that it is using things explicitly defined in 5e. As far as I can tell you have choices of "creature" "object" and "spell." since the old grouping terms are no longer a thing</p><p>[USER=7019027]@Asisreo[/USER] crawford talks about breath weapons & such <a href="https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/chris-avellone-and-philip-daigle-planescape-torment-enhanced-edition" target="_blank">here</a> around 22 minutes in & pretty much all he does is rule out the old extraordinary & probably weapon* categories by saying it doesn't require lungs or any anatomy beyond a "mouth-like orifice" resulting in even less clarity on your post 138 question including lightning breath specifically.</p><p></p><p>* I <em>think</em> 4e had that as one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7965406, member: 93670"] he creature statblock cutout section I included was from 3.5 & i'd be shocked if 4e didn't do some explicit differentiation for various creature abilities I wouldn't have considered it magic either, but 5e does not define a breath weapon as [I]anything[/I]. There is no question that it's not a "creature". Is it an object like a campfire affected by reverse gravity or a torch/vial of acid/etc?... maybe? Is it a spell?... maybe?... is it a.. oops there are no more types defined in 5e. So in the many cases where is it X is important you don't have a strong case for ruling out spell [I]or[/I] object due to the lack of anything else. Not only is it an undefined nothing it and so much more is an unfinished null state rather than an explicit nothing . Instead of asking "why are [U]other[/U] people thinking it's magic" turn the question around on yourself and [B]you[/B] clearly make a case for what[I] [/I][U][I]specifically[/I][/U] that it is using things explicitly defined in 5e. As far as I can tell you have choices of "creature" "object" and "spell." since the old grouping terms are no longer a thing [USER=7019027]@Asisreo[/USER] crawford talks about breath weapons & such [URL='https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/chris-avellone-and-philip-daigle-planescape-torment-enhanced-edition']here[/URL] around 22 minutes in & pretty much all he does is rule out the old extraordinary & probably weapon* categories by saying it doesn't require lungs or any anatomy beyond a "mouth-like orifice" resulting in even less clarity on your post 138 question including lightning breath specifically. * I [I]think[/I] 4e had that as one. [/QUOTE]
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