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<blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 1998134" data-attributes="member: 19998"><p>And I don't think you need to anymore. His origanal post has all the earmarks of a guy who's just had an argument with a friend and is fed up with a few of his shenanigans.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think his original point is valid. Sometimes roleplaying does get in the way of a good game. That's why I (and many others) don't allow evil PCs. I've seen games where people keep creating characters that are anit-social loners who have no desire to stay together as a group. Why? What's the point of playing a game that assumes a group of about 4 people and adjudicates challenges accordingly, with a group of people, and creating a loner character? I can see where someone may enjoy roleplaying that, but I don't se why someone would want play with that person in their group. </p><p></p><p>And, as others have said, sometimes you need to meta-game. It is a game, and it behooves to not forget that lest we wind up like the charactes in a Jack Chick tract. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmmmm.... It does seem like that doesn't it? I don't think it would be worse because if two players characters had died, then I don't think there would have been an argument, and ther would not have been a post. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think he was honestly bringing up the subject of roleplaying vs metagameing. Look over the first couple of posts he made and you can see he's not asking for DMing advice. However, a roleplaying vs metagaming debate is so old that people have created this strawman of an evil DM who's forcing his will on one or more player characters because it's far more interesting. Look at the past 50 posts or so. Does it seem to you that people are comenting on the orginal subject, given the first post? Or does it seem like their comenting on something that onl exists in their minds?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fanboy2000, post: 1998134, member: 19998"] And I don't think you need to anymore. His origanal post has all the earmarks of a guy who's just had an argument with a friend and is fed up with a few of his shenanigans. Also, I think his original point is valid. Sometimes roleplaying does get in the way of a good game. That's why I (and many others) don't allow evil PCs. I've seen games where people keep creating characters that are anit-social loners who have no desire to stay together as a group. Why? What's the point of playing a game that assumes a group of about 4 people and adjudicates challenges accordingly, with a group of people, and creating a loner character? I can see where someone may enjoy roleplaying that, but I don't se why someone would want play with that person in their group. And, as others have said, sometimes you need to meta-game. It is a game, and it behooves to not forget that lest we wind up like the charactes in a Jack Chick tract. ;) Hmmmmm.... It does seem like that doesn't it? I don't think it would be worse because if two players characters had died, then I don't think there would have been an argument, and ther would not have been a post. I think he was honestly bringing up the subject of roleplaying vs metagameing. Look over the first couple of posts he made and you can see he's not asking for DMing advice. However, a roleplaying vs metagaming debate is so old that people have created this strawman of an evil DM who's forcing his will on one or more player characters because it's far more interesting. Look at the past 50 posts or so. Does it seem to you that people are comenting on the orginal subject, given the first post? Or does it seem like their comenting on something that onl exists in their minds? [/QUOTE]
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