Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
When status effects annoy the players
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 5159403" data-attributes="member: 59096"><p>Pretty much. The thing is, in my opinion its a pretty obvious trap. If you have a Will defense that monsters can't miss, you should expect them to spam daze/stun/dominate on you. </p><p></p><p>This isn't hard to avoid. Lets take a Half-Elf Paladin as an example, one who boosts Wisdom and Charisma, with no stat to boost Fortitude and Reflex:</p><p></p><p>Level 1:</p><p></p><p>I use the stat array 16/14/14/13/10/8, giving my Paladin stats of Str10, Con16, Dex13, Int8, Wis14, Cha18. To boost my Reflex further, I choose to go with a Heavy Shield. My Defenses at level 1 are Fort 14/Ref 14/Will 15 and rock solid.</p><p></p><p>Level 10:</p><p></p><p>At levels 4 and 8 I boost Wis/Cha, leaving my Fort/Ref alone. Keeping a Heavy Shield and wearing a +2 neck item, my defenses are still solid at Fort 21/Ref 21/Will 23</p><p></p><p>Level 20</p><p></p><p>This is where it starts taking some work. I keep with the tradition of boosting Wis/Cha though my 13 Dex becomes 14 and gives me an extra point of Reflex(which I will lose at Epic) Here I take two feats to prop up defenses, those being Paragon Defenses(+1 to Fort/Ref/Will) and Shield Master(Shield gives +2 Fortitude). With a +4 neck item, my Defenses are Fort 31/Reflex 30/Will 32. Not spectacular, but not exploitable weaknesses. Without these feats, my defenses are Fort 28/Ref 29/Will 31. Not horrible, but a little low on Fort/Ref.</p><p></p><p>Level 30</p><p></p><p>At Epic I go Demigod, boosting Wis/Cha, and also boost Wis/Cha at 24 and 28. My level 30 stats are Str12, Con18, Dex15, Int10, Wis24, Cha 28. In Epic, I take three more feats to fix my defenses. I retrain Paragon Defenses into Robust Defense(+2 all), and also take Epic Fortitude and Epic Reflex(+4 to each, that stacks with Robust Defenses). With a +6 neck item, my final defenses are Fort 44/Ref 42/Will 43, and rock solid and ready for anything. Without these feats, my Defenses end up Fort 36, Ref 36(34 without shield), Will 41. </p><p></p><p>36 in Fortitude and Reflex at level 30 does not cut it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 5159403, member: 59096"] Pretty much. The thing is, in my opinion its a pretty obvious trap. If you have a Will defense that monsters can't miss, you should expect them to spam daze/stun/dominate on you. This isn't hard to avoid. Lets take a Half-Elf Paladin as an example, one who boosts Wisdom and Charisma, with no stat to boost Fortitude and Reflex: Level 1: I use the stat array 16/14/14/13/10/8, giving my Paladin stats of Str10, Con16, Dex13, Int8, Wis14, Cha18. To boost my Reflex further, I choose to go with a Heavy Shield. My Defenses at level 1 are Fort 14/Ref 14/Will 15 and rock solid. Level 10: At levels 4 and 8 I boost Wis/Cha, leaving my Fort/Ref alone. Keeping a Heavy Shield and wearing a +2 neck item, my defenses are still solid at Fort 21/Ref 21/Will 23 Level 20 This is where it starts taking some work. I keep with the tradition of boosting Wis/Cha though my 13 Dex becomes 14 and gives me an extra point of Reflex(which I will lose at Epic) Here I take two feats to prop up defenses, those being Paragon Defenses(+1 to Fort/Ref/Will) and Shield Master(Shield gives +2 Fortitude). With a +4 neck item, my Defenses are Fort 31/Reflex 30/Will 32. Not spectacular, but not exploitable weaknesses. Without these feats, my defenses are Fort 28/Ref 29/Will 31. Not horrible, but a little low on Fort/Ref. Level 30 At Epic I go Demigod, boosting Wis/Cha, and also boost Wis/Cha at 24 and 28. My level 30 stats are Str12, Con18, Dex15, Int10, Wis24, Cha 28. In Epic, I take three more feats to fix my defenses. I retrain Paragon Defenses into Robust Defense(+2 all), and also take Epic Fortitude and Epic Reflex(+4 to each, that stacks with Robust Defenses). With a +6 neck item, my final defenses are Fort 44/Ref 42/Will 43, and rock solid and ready for anything. Without these feats, my Defenses end up Fort 36, Ref 36(34 without shield), Will 41. 36 in Fortitude and Reflex at level 30 does not cut it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
When status effects annoy the players
Top