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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9281124" data-attributes="member: 7006">I play RPGs for the fiction they represent.&nbsp; If the mechanics do not make that fiction possible, then the designers screwed their game up and it's not worth playing.So for example... in my opinion, a large part of the fiction of playing a Star Trek RPG is in each character having their own station on the bridge that they themselves are the master of, and when the starship goes exploring or gets into combat, each character has specific things they need to be doing to see those actions result in a successful mission.&nbsp; For a Trek game to succeed in my opinion... the mechanics have to give every station on the bridge a lot of meaningful things to do when that PC's turn comes up.&nbsp; If the game cannot supply that... then to me it's a failure of design and the game is much less worth playing.&nbsp; If the starship fights a Klingon Bird of Prey and the Ship's Doctor is now going to spend the next 30 minutes sitting on their hands because the game doesn't give mechanics on what the Ship's Doctor should be doing during that combat... then someone screwed up.&nbsp; The designers of a Star Trek RPG have to know that starship combat is an important part of playing in the fiction of Star Trek, and if they don't take all the different &quot;jobs&quot; of Star Trek characters into account when making their design of their game... then the game has failed.This was the problem with a lot of the d20 conversions that occurred in the OGL heyday... the d20 system just did not have enough design mechanics to be able to accurately represent lots of different types and genres of game or the various character types that were a part of those different types and genres of game.&nbsp; And thus those games really weren't worth playing.&nbsp; &quot;Generic&quot; game system always tend to fall short in my opinion except for the two or three types of game the generic system was built for.&nbsp; In most other cases... give me a mechanical system specifically built for the genre and game in question.&nbsp; I'll take a game with meticulously designed Heist rules to play an RPG about doing heists over a game that says &quot;Well, you can run heist games with this system with some changes and additions...&quot; any day of the week.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9281124, member: 7006"] I play RPGs for the fiction they represent. If the mechanics do not make that fiction possible, then the designers screwed their game up and it's not worth playing. So for example... in my opinion, a large part of the fiction of playing a [I]Star Trek[/I] RPG is in each character having their own station on the bridge that they themselves are the master of, and when the starship goes exploring or gets into combat, each character has specific things they need to be doing to see those actions result in a successful mission. For a Trek game to succeed in my opinion... the mechanics have to give every station on the bridge a lot of meaningful things to do when that PC's turn comes up. If the game cannot supply that... then to me it's a failure of design and the game is much less worth playing. If the starship fights a Klingon Bird of Prey and the Ship's Doctor is now going to spend the next 30 minutes sitting on their hands because the game doesn't give mechanics on what the Ship's Doctor should be doing during that combat... then someone screwed up. The designers of a [I]Star Trek [/I]RPG [B]have[/B] to know that starship combat is an important part of playing in the fiction of [I]Star Trek[/I], and if they don't take all the different "jobs" of [I]Star Trek[/I] characters into account when making their design of their game... then the game has failed. This was the problem with a lot of the d20 conversions that occurred in the OGL heyday... the d20 system just did not have enough design mechanics to be able to accurately represent lots of different types and genres of game or the various character types that were a part of those different types and genres of game. And thus those games really weren't worth playing. "Generic" game system always tend to fall short in my opinion except for the two or three types of game the generic system was built for. In most other cases... give me a mechanical system specifically built for the genre and game in question. I'll take a game with meticulously designed Heist rules to play an RPG about doing heists over a game that says "Well, you [I]can[/I] run heist games with this system with some changes and additions..." any day of the week. [/QUOTE]

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