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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 8404847" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!Never in any version of D&amp;D/AD&amp;D...actually, never in any game with anyone with ONE exception: &quot;The Smith Family&quot;. Playing Rolemaster for the first time. No, I will not go into details because me and my best friend still have PTSD from that whole year+ experience (and, again, no, I am NOT KIDDING about the PTSD thing!)When making our very first RM characters we were constantly told &quot;Oh, you can choose...[list of 14 classes]&quot;, then we'd look them over, pick one and get &quot;Oh. You should play a [insert one or two classes]&quot;. Next &quot;Here are the races..[insert 10 races]&quot;...then... &quot;Oh. You should take [this race] in stead]&quot;. This continued for EVERY single choice. Ok, maybe not every, but easily 99/100. &quot;Oh, don't take Dagger...take Jamiya from this supplement&quot;... &quot;Take the backpack from this supplement because it's the same but weighs less&quot;... &quot;Don't go with blue eyes, make them brown...our GM will have everyone attack you because a notorious villain in our game has blue eyes&quot; (and, again, not kidding on that level of craziness!).Anyhoo... I think some people who are really into &quot;optimizing&quot; and love the rules minutia are the ones who can't help themselves but constantly offer &quot;suggestions&quot;. Some of these people actually get angry...raised voice, furrowed brow, etc...when they see someone taking Fighter and choosing to fight with a Quarterstaff and wear leather armour. In their mind, someone making a character can't POSSIBLY have fun with it and they are worried that such a &quot;sucky character&quot; is going to get their character killed...the character they spent over 17 hours reading, searching, and 'building'.^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pming, post: 8404847, member: 45197"] Hiya! Never in any version of D&D/AD&D...actually, never in any game with anyone with ONE exception: "The Smith Family". Playing Rolemaster for the first time. No, I will not go into details because me and my best friend still have PTSD from that whole year+ experience (and, again, no, I am NOT KIDDING about the PTSD thing!) When making our very first RM characters we were [I]constantly[/I] told "Oh, you can choose...[list of 14 classes]", then we'd look them over, pick one and get "Oh. You should play a [insert one or two classes]". Next "Here are the races..[insert 10 races]"...then... "Oh. You should take [this race] in stead]". This continued for EVERY single choice. Ok, maybe not every, but easily 99/100. "Oh, don't take Dagger...take Jamiya from this supplement"... "Take the backpack from this supplement because it's the same but weighs less"... "Don't go with blue eyes, make them brown...our GM will have everyone attack you because a notorious villain in our game has blue eyes" (and, again, not kidding on that level of craziness!). Anyhoo... I think some people who are really into "optimizing" and love the rules minutia are the ones who can't help themselves but constantly offer "suggestions". Some of these people actually get angry...raised voice, furrowed brow, etc...when they see someone taking Fighter and choosing to fight with a Quarterstaff and wear leather armour. In their mind, someone making a character can't POSSIBLY have fun with it [I]and[/I] they are worried that such a "sucky character" is going to get [I]their [/I]character killed...the character they spent over 17 hours reading, searching, and 'building'. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]

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