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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 4112959" data-attributes="member: 198">The summoning can be a pain in the ass simply because it eats time at the table, but none of the other things sound particularly difficult to deal with. It's easy to have CR 10 enemies who can reliably hit AC 30+, and if you're using spellcasters or enemies who use touch attacks, most of that AC gets nullified. Similarly, most creatures summoned by 10th lvl clerics or druids will have problems hitting an enemy with a good AC, and the right protective spells (Protection from X) means they can't even touch the enemies. Why don't you post the various characters with their class breakups and approximate AC, hp, attacks and tactics? I think you'll find that there are a lot of people here on ENWorld who can suggest easy ways to challenge them (and there have already been some good suggestions in this thread). In my estimation, a DM who's tactically on the ball can reliably take down a group of PCs of level X with an equal number of enemies of level X-2. In short, I'm betting you could give the PCs the willies with six CR 8 enemies if you played it right.</blockquote>