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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenobi65" data-source="post: 4113055" data-attributes="member: 1515">True, some monsters in the CR 10 range will have difficulty hitting AC 30.  You may need to pick and choose a few good ones.  Giants, dragons, elementals, and outsiders often have attack bonuses of +20 or more by CR 10 or so.I have good luck with pitting the PCs against human-types with class levels; they get access to the same feats and magic items that the PCs do.  For instance, a Fighter 10:- BAB +10- Str +5 (starting Str of 16, 2 ability score bumps, Gauntlets of Ogre Power)- Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Focus for +2- Melee Weapon Mastery (PHB2 feat) for another +2- +1 weaponNothing illegal or even unusual in there, and I just made a guy who has +20 to hit; he's going to be able to hit your AC 30 PCs half the time with no other help.  Now, give him a few buffs:- Prayer from his cleric friend for +1 (and -1 for the PCs, too)- Inspire Courage from his bard friend (along with Inspirational Boost, a spell from Spell Compendium) for +3- Bull's Strength from his cleric or wizard friend for another +1 (doesn't stack with the gauntlets)- Haste from his wizard friend for another +1 (plus an extra attack)- Flanking from his rogue buddy (who has an obscene Tumble score).Now he's got 3 attacks per round, at +28/+28/+23.  In short: when you're DMing for higher-level PCs, you may need to do more work in the set-up to give them a significant challenge.</blockquote>