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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 4114162" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>I find a lot of this to be needlessly confrontational vs the players. The objective of a D&D game is not to "Beat" the players. While a DM shouldn't avoid hitting characters weaknesses, the sessions shouldn't be built around using them to screw the characters either. The DM has essentially infinite resources and infinite control over the situations. So they can always beat down the PCs. The challenge is to come up with something challenging and interesting, not simply to defeat the characters.</p><p></p><p>#6 In particular leads to characters with no backgrounds, no histories and no attachments. The occasional hostage situation or kidnapping is fine, but histories shouldn't be used solely as a club to beat the characters with.</p><p></p><p>#7 Leads square into the classic "player vs character knowledge" argument that has been raging since about 5 min after D&D was first invented. Personally, unless it's something particularly funky and mysterious, I don't see any reason most creatures and spells aren't going to at least, have been heard of by experienced adventurers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 4114162, member: 149"] I find a lot of this to be needlessly confrontational vs the players. The objective of a D&D game is not to "Beat" the players. While a DM shouldn't avoid hitting characters weaknesses, the sessions shouldn't be built around using them to screw the characters either. The DM has essentially infinite resources and infinite control over the situations. So they can always beat down the PCs. The challenge is to come up with something challenging and interesting, not simply to defeat the characters. #6 In particular leads to characters with no backgrounds, no histories and no attachments. The occasional hostage situation or kidnapping is fine, but histories shouldn't be used solely as a club to beat the characters with. #7 Leads square into the classic "player vs character knowledge" argument that has been raging since about 5 min after D&D was first invented. Personally, unless it's something particularly funky and mysterious, I don't see any reason most creatures and spells aren't going to at least, have been heard of by experienced adventurers. [/QUOTE]
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