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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 2894633" data-attributes="member: 18832">It's never the system, it's always the group.Some groups take a tactically-focused game like D&amp;D and can't get anything else out of it. Some have no problem focusing equally on story as on the mechanics of the game - or more so.Conversely, some groups play a rules-light game and can't get anything out of it, because they can't engage with their characters when they're so, for lack of a better word, &quot;abstracted&quot;. I recall a thread on this forum concerning a player's inability to meaningfully represent a dextrous &quot;light fighter&quot; in Castles &amp; Crusades, and how that player (der kluge?) was unable to roleplay the character because she wasn't interacting with her world in the game the way she did in his mind.I think it has nothing to do with system, except inasmuch as individual players, and players in groups, find different systems more or less easy to game with while they roleplay. For some people, the game demands too much of their time and attention at the table. For others, the game becomes far too meaningless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 2894633, member: 18832"] It's [b]never[/b] the system, it's [b]always[/b] the group. Some groups take a tactically-focused game like D&D and can't get anything else out of it. Some have no problem focusing equally on story as on the mechanics of the game - or more so. Conversely, some groups play a rules-light game and can't get anything out of it, because they can't engage with their characters when they're so, for lack of a better word, "abstracted". I recall a thread on this forum concerning a player's inability to meaningfully represent a dextrous "light fighter" in [i]Castles & Crusades[/i], and how that player (der kluge?) was unable to roleplay the character because she wasn't interacting with her world in the game the way she did in his mind. I think it has [b]nothing[/b] to do with system, except inasmuch as individual players, and players in groups, find different systems more or less easy to [b]game[/b] with while they roleplay. For some people, the game demands too much of their time and attention at the table. For others, the game becomes far too meaningless. [/QUOTE]

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