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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 2894641" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>Here's an anecdote from my own experience: the first two Third Edition games I ever played, a Planescape game run in straight D&D and a d20 <em>Wheel of Time</em> campaign, back when nearly everyone in the group was still learning how the d20 System worked, were so heavy on the roleplaying that at least some of us would have long discussions about the motivations of the characters and their future goals on the drive home. I spent more than a few evenings talking to my friend Gareth in my car out the front of his place for more than two hours, and all of that chatter was about our characters.</p><p></p><p>Even back then, when it was all fresh, I couldn't have told you the exact builds people were using - I know that the one half-celestial and two half-fiendish characters in the Planescape game were <strong>mechanically</strong> aasimar and tieflings because the DM didn't want to bother with the templates, and I could tell you roughly what everyone's classes were, but despite some pretty high-level, tactically-complex play I don't think anyone ever felt like the system was in the way.</p><p></p><p>In fact, I would have liked a little more in the way of attention to the system in the Planescape game, but expecting that from the DM in question might have been a futile hope. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I think it's got more to do with how much emphasis the group places on motivation and character goals, and whether or not the group finds the system intrusive <strong>for them</strong>, than it has to do with some innate properties of the system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 2894641, member: 18832"] Here's an anecdote from my own experience: the first two Third Edition games I ever played, a Planescape game run in straight D&D and a d20 [i]Wheel of Time[/i] campaign, back when nearly everyone in the group was still learning how the d20 System worked, were so heavy on the roleplaying that at least some of us would have long discussions about the motivations of the characters and their future goals on the drive home. I spent more than a few evenings talking to my friend Gareth in my car out the front of his place for more than two hours, and all of that chatter was about our characters. Even back then, when it was all fresh, I couldn't have told you the exact builds people were using - I know that the one half-celestial and two half-fiendish characters in the Planescape game were [b]mechanically[/b] aasimar and tieflings because the DM didn't want to bother with the templates, and I could tell you roughly what everyone's classes were, but despite some pretty high-level, tactically-complex play I don't think anyone ever felt like the system was in the way. In fact, I would have liked a little more in the way of attention to the system in the Planescape game, but expecting that from the DM in question might have been a futile hope. ;) I think it's got more to do with how much emphasis the group places on motivation and character goals, and whether or not the group finds the system intrusive [b]for them[/b], than it has to do with some innate properties of the system. [/QUOTE]
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