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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 2900365" data-attributes="member: 386">Well, look at it this way.&nbsp; If the PC makes his check, the wall was already buckling, ready to fall, and nobody noticed it yet, and all he needs to do is exert a little crowbar pressure right here and the whole thing comes tumbling down.If he fails, the wall can't be collapsed.&nbsp; Imagine it like in a comic book - thought bubbles: &quot;Maybe if this one beam is weak I can collapse it on James the Slightly Rude - no, strong dwarvish construction, I can't bring it down.&quot;In the past, as GM I've maintained the power here, trying to get the players to come up with something I can buy so that they can make the roll.&nbsp; Now I think I would change it so that if anyone at the table thinks it's lame, then, well, you gotta try something else.Sure, why not!&nbsp; If we're talking about d6, give the guy a skill: Magic.&nbsp; Then, whatever magic he wants to work, have him roll.&nbsp; Of course, this skill doesn't replace the existing ones, so he can't use Magic to Con someone.&nbsp; What he can do, however, is use Magic to get a bonus to his Con roll, because he's casting a spell.&nbsp; Or see into the future, or turn into a dragon, or whatever.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 2900365, member: 386"] Well, look at it this way. If the PC makes his check, the wall was [i]already[/i] buckling, ready to fall, and nobody noticed it yet, and all he needs to do is exert a little crowbar pressure right here and the whole thing comes tumbling down. If he fails, the wall can't be collapsed. Imagine it like in a comic book - thought bubbles: "Maybe if this one beam is weak I can collapse it on James the Slightly Rude - no, strong dwarvish construction, I can't bring it down." In the past, as GM I've maintained the power here, trying to get the players to come up with something I can buy so that they can make the roll. Now I think I would change it so that if [i]anyone[/i] at the table thinks it's lame, then, well, you gotta try something else. Sure, why not! If we're talking about d6, give the guy a skill: Magic. Then, whatever magic he wants to work, have him roll. Of course, this skill doesn't replace the existing ones, so he can't use Magic to Con someone. What he can do, however, is use Magic to get a bonus to his Con roll, because he's casting a spell. Or see into the future, or turn into a dragon, or whatever. [/QUOTE]

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