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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9336243" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I wanted to touch on this, because there can, in fact, be cases where a divine caster might not know that a spell on their list exists.&nbsp; This isn't 5e content, but I think it's relevant (from the 2e Tome of Magic):[ATTACH=full]361688[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]361689[/ATTACH]Here, we have a book that adds more spell options to Priests.&nbsp; Rather than say &quot;poof, you can add these spells to your character&quot;, it goes over reasons why these spells can suddenly become available.&nbsp; It may be that the spell existed, but your Cleric or Druid doesn't know about it, and has to request it from their deity once the knowledge is gained, or they meet certain requirements.&nbsp; It's perfectly fine to add a spell to even the Cleric spell list to your game without immediately telling all your Cleric players &quot;oh hey, you can use this spell now&quot;.&nbsp; It could be a plot point that, long ago, the leader of your Religious Order banned certain spells and so the knowledge of their existence was lost, and then you come upon a scroll of one such spell in a dungeon and realize &quot;oh hey, this is a thing I can do!&quot;, not even knowing that it's a forbidden spell!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9336243, member: 6877472"] I wanted to touch on this, because there can, in fact, be cases where a divine caster might not know that a spell on their list exists. This isn't 5e content, but I think it's relevant (from the 2e Tome of Magic): [ATTACH type="full"]361688[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]361689[/ATTACH] Here, we have a book that adds more spell options to Priests. Rather than say "poof, you can add these spells to your character", it goes over reasons why these spells can suddenly become available. It may be that the spell existed, but your Cleric or Druid doesn't know about it, and has to request it from their deity once the knowledge is gained, or they meet certain requirements. It's perfectly fine to add a spell to even the Cleric spell list to your game without immediately telling all your Cleric players "oh hey, you can use this spell now". It could be a plot point that, long ago, the leader of your Religious Order banned certain spells and so the knowledge of their existence was lost, and then you come upon a scroll of one such spell in a dungeon and realize "oh hey, this is a thing I can do!", not even knowing that it's a forbidden spell! [/QUOTE]

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