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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6678563" data-attributes="member: 6787503">Basically it sounds like if someone in your game declares an attack before you call for initiative they get a &quot;surprise round&quot; and possibly get to go first in the next round as well. The way I'd do this is to roll initiative as soon as the PCs and orcs spot each other. Then if the rash PC wants to start shooting on her turn she can do that, and initiative order would continue from there.I didn't start this thread to rehash the arguments from the Assassinate thread, but it did bring these differences in when folks roll initiative to my attention, which is why I started it. I'll just say that running surprise this way has only two slight differences from the RAW. One, the surprised don't get to take reactions after their turns, and two, Assassinate can be used on them after their turns. Oh, that's right, they don't have turns.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 6678563, member: 6787503"] Basically it sounds like if someone in your game declares an attack before you call for initiative they get a "surprise round" and possibly get to go first in the next round as well. The way I'd do this is to roll initiative as soon as the PCs and orcs spot each other. Then if the rash PC wants to start shooting on her turn she can do that, and initiative order would continue from there. I didn't start this thread to rehash the arguments from the Assassinate thread, but it did bring these differences in when folks roll initiative to my attention, which [I]is[/I] why I started it. I'll just say that running surprise this way has only two slight differences from the RAW. One, the surprised don't get to take reactions after their turns, and two, Assassinate can be used on them after their turns. Oh, that's right, they don't have turns. [/QUOTE]

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