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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6775044" data-attributes="member: 6788736">This is where he screwed up. He needed to describe the attacks. Re being attacked by hidden creatures in a warehouse (and surprised):'Bursting from behind the crates, several thugs charge at you with weapons drawn and malice in their eyes. You're all surprised. Roll initiative'or'You suddenly get an overwhelming sense of dread, as the twang of multiple bowstrings echoes around the warehouse and the whoosh of arrows fills the air. You're all surprised. Roll initiative'&nbsp; Your DM screwed up. He failed to give you the narration of *what* triggered the combat sequence beginning. He didnt give you the information he should have.Nah man, surprise models being caught 'flat footed' or with your pants down.Your DM should have given you enough information to know why the game had switched from narrative time to combat time. You know like:(In parlay with a BBEG who decides to attack based on a failed persuasion check by the PC's)The wizard you were speaking to suddenly gets an angry look on his face and begins waving his hands togther, chanting and rubbing some bat guano and sulphur together.. roll initiative.(Being busted sneaking up on some rogues)The guys in leather armor turn and spot you, raising loaded crossbows and taking aim at you. Roll initiative.(Being surprised by an invisible dragon)From the otherwise empty room, you hear the monstrous inhalation of breath and see the form of a large red dragon flicker in the corner; flames curling around its nostrils and mouth. You are all surprised, roll initative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6775044, member: 6788736"] This is where he screwed up. He needed to describe the attacks. Re being attacked by hidden creatures in a warehouse (and surprised): [I]'Bursting from behind the crates, several thugs charge at you with weapons drawn and malice in their eyes. You're all surprised. Roll initiative'[/I] or [I]'You suddenly get an overwhelming sense of dread, as the twang of multiple bowstrings echoes around the warehouse and the whoosh of arrows fills the air. You're all surprised. Roll initiative'[/I] Your DM screwed up. He failed to give you the narration of *what* triggered the combat sequence beginning. He didnt give you the information he should have. Nah man, surprise models being caught 'flat footed' or with your pants down. Your DM should have given you enough information to know [I]why [/I]the game had switched from narrative time to combat time. You know like: (In parlay with a BBEG who decides to attack based on a failed persuasion check by the PC's) [I]The wizard you were speaking to suddenly gets an angry look on his face and begins waving his hands togther, chanting and rubbing some bat guano and sulphur together.. roll initiative.[/I] (Being busted sneaking up on some rogues) [I]The guys in leather armor turn and spot you, raising loaded crossbows and taking aim at you. Roll initiative.[/I] (Being surprised by an invisible dragon) [I]From the otherwise empty room, you hear the monstrous inhalation of breath and see the form of a large red dragon flicker in the corner; flames curling around its nostrils and mouth. You are all surprised, roll initative.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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