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<blockquote data-quote="Valador" data-source="post: 6776474" data-attributes="member: 6782907">Considering initiative is only used in combat, the players will know. To the characters, since they're surprised, they can't act or do anything anyways and each round is 6 seconds and everyones turns basically happen at the same time, it's not like the character is willy nilly standing around doing nothing for an odd period of time waiting.The party is strolling along.DM - &quot;roll initiative&quot;Players all roll higher than the enemy.DM - &quot;you've all rolled higher than the enemy but you're surprised and cannot act until your next turn, you may react after your first turn.&quot;DM - &quot;the enemy leaps from the bushes and attacks so and so.&quot;combat as usual from here on outI don't really see this as breaking the &quot;immersion&quot; that bad. The players know something is happening, but unless they meta game, the characters are none the wiser during those first 6 seconds...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Valador, post: 6776474, member: 6782907"] Considering initiative is only used in combat, the players will know. To the characters, since they're surprised, they can't act or do anything anyways and each round is 6 seconds and everyones turns basically happen at the same time, it's not like the character is willy nilly standing around doing nothing for an odd period of time waiting. The party is strolling along. DM - "roll initiative" Players all roll higher than the enemy. DM - "you've all rolled higher than the enemy but you're surprised and cannot act until your next turn, you may react after your first turn." DM - "the enemy leaps from the bushes and attacks so and so." combat as usual from here on out I don't really see this as breaking the "immersion" that bad. The players know something is happening, but unless they meta game, the characters are none the wiser during those first 6 seconds... [/QUOTE]

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