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When Was it Decided Fighters Should Suck at Everything but Combat?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9855272" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Never mind that sometimes those seemingly-trivial combats can turn out to be anything but.</p><p></p><p>Take last night's session: party are partway through chopping down a tree (long story as to why) when some animated vines, hanging from a different tree, attack. For this fairly mighty party those vines should have been a complete pushover...but then the dice got involved.....</p><p></p><p>First off, I roll a saving throw for the tree being chopped down to see if it remains standing; it fails miserably, so down it comes. As the two people doing the chopping have left to help deal with the vines it's an uncontrolled fall, so I get someone to roll a d8 to see which way it goes. There's a 1-in-8 chance it falls right on top of most of the party, who are standing on a trail through the forest, and sure enough that's just what it does. Almost everyone takes some minor-ish damage and a spell gets interrupted mid-casting. Interrupted spells can (but don't always) cause a wild magic surge; player rolls for that and of course it surges, and rolled on a table of many many possible effects the surge causes a random nearby person (in this case, the party's Monk) to go murderously berserk and attack the nearest living thing, which happens to be the Nature Cleric standing next to him.</p><p></p><p>So now they have to deal with this buzzsaw of a Monk (who of course had dodged the falling tree completely!), and the vines, and dig themselves out from under a tree. What a mess, all because one thing just led to another.....</p><p></p><p>All came to order in the end, though, without any real harm done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9855272, member: 29398"] Never mind that sometimes those seemingly-trivial combats can turn out to be anything but. Take last night's session: party are partway through chopping down a tree (long story as to why) when some animated vines, hanging from a different tree, attack. For this fairly mighty party those vines should have been a complete pushover...but then the dice got involved..... First off, I roll a saving throw for the tree being chopped down to see if it remains standing; it fails miserably, so down it comes. As the two people doing the chopping have left to help deal with the vines it's an uncontrolled fall, so I get someone to roll a d8 to see which way it goes. There's a 1-in-8 chance it falls right on top of most of the party, who are standing on a trail through the forest, and sure enough that's just what it does. Almost everyone takes some minor-ish damage and a spell gets interrupted mid-casting. Interrupted spells can (but don't always) cause a wild magic surge; player rolls for that and of course it surges, and rolled on a table of many many possible effects the surge causes a random nearby person (in this case, the party's Monk) to go murderously berserk and attack the nearest living thing, which happens to be the Nature Cleric standing next to him. So now they have to deal with this buzzsaw of a Monk (who of course had dodged the falling tree completely!), and the vines, and dig themselves out from under a tree. What a mess, all because one thing just led to another..... All came to order in the end, though, without any real harm done. [/QUOTE]
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