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<blockquote data-quote="Bill Zebub" data-source="post: 9859404" data-attributes="member: 7031982">Yes, this.&nbsp; It's how I feel about secret doors, too.&nbsp; If knowledge/secrets are gated behind a random roll, as opposed to there being hints and clues that the players could find, then it must mean that it's entirely optional.&nbsp; And if it's entirely optional then it's not critical to the story.&nbsp; And if not's critical to the story then why not let the players have it?It's misleading to compare RPGs to novels, of course...they are two very different forms...but there is still some similarity.&nbsp; Imagine talking to the author of one of your favorite stories, who says, &quot;Yeah, there was a secret door that would have saved them a bunch of time, and they would have found a magic sword, but they missed it.&quot;&quot;Wait...how was I supposed to know that?&nbsp; Was there a clue in the book that I missed?&quot;&quot;No.&nbsp; I just decided that my characters didn't spot it.&quot;&quot;You mean you removed it from the story?&quot;&quot;No, it was there.&nbsp; But nobody saw it.&quot;WTF?&nbsp; Right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bill Zebub, post: 9859404, member: 7031982"] Yes, this. It's how I feel about secret doors, too. If knowledge/secrets are gated behind a random roll, as opposed to there being hints and clues that the players could find, then it must mean that it's entirely optional. And if it's entirely optional then it's not critical to the story. And if not's critical to the story then why not let the players have it? It's misleading to compare RPGs to novels, of course...they are two very different forms...but there is still some similarity. Imagine talking to the author of one of your favorite stories, who says, "Yeah, there was a secret door that would have saved them a bunch of time, and they would have found a magic sword, but they missed it." "Wait...how was I supposed to know that? Was there a clue in the book that I missed?" "No. I just decided that my characters didn't spot it." "You mean you removed it from the story?" "No, it was there. But nobody saw it." WTF? Right? [/QUOTE]

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