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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 1072980" data-attributes="member: 3192">My personal opinion is that so much of 3rd edition is so done well, a 4th is almost unnecessary.  3.5 was more of a patch to the system.  The number of rules changed vs. the number of rules in the entire game is minor.  IMHO, taken as a whole, I don't believe that 3rd edition has nearly as many problems as the past two do. Reading what the other posters here are saying, I'm wondering whether or not Wizards shouldn't put out a couple of "alternate versions" of the rules.  I'm not quite sure how extensive Unearthed Arcana will be with its optional rules, but I doubt they will go far enough for many.  My suggestion is that D20 has gotten big enough to have a few kid brothers and sisters.  Maybe 3E Rules Light and 3E Low Magic core rulebook systems could be added, instead of revamping ...how skills work, how feats work, how spells work, the core mechanic, etc.  An epic ruleset (with rules for converting from the other systems) could be created with more specifics, bulk, and flare, than the current build-it-yourself system.To be very clear, what I'm suggesting are not rule add-ons, but different games based on the D20 system like D20 Modern. (but with rules for changing between the systems)This way everybody wins.  Wizards expands the market to new and different players' tastes and can publish more core books, fans get to choose which ruleset they prefer for the style of game they're playing, the D20 community can support more than one ruleset building different styles of games off of different rulesets, and (presumably) plenty of rules still synchronize.  Each game system would (ideally) be rigorously playtested to be balanced within itself.  Basic components like spells and feats could include rules for crossover.  A non-Vancian spell system game could be created and balanced without revamping the core rules.  OTOH, if the whole of the game changes, then our current D20 books become as obsolete as 1st and 2nd edition books do in relation.  A revamped 4E conversion could change the format for every class, race, item, feat, skill and spell currently out on the market.  With the creation of different rulesets, Wizards could incorporate new versions of the game and still update (a la 3.5) the core ruleset like A'koss suggests above.Edited for spelling</blockquote>

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