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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 3998472" data-attributes="member: 32740"><p>Rather than say that a creature such as a shrieker has no movement because it has no dex, it would be more accurate to say that it has no dex because it has no movement. It is also inaccurate/misleading to list its save as -- when it should be listed as *, and then, *this creature does not move, therefore has no dex, and because it has no dex it automatically fails reflex saves - (see non-abilities, p. xx).</p><p></p><p>It is interesting as well to note that in the non-ability description of dex it states that a creature with no dex uses its int to adjust its initiative - but a shrieker also has no int. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Of course I tak that to mean that it has no adjustment to initiative at all, though there will certainly be those who think it means they always go last in intiative, and others who assume that it means they always win initiative because the rules aren't saying they don't. But then all of this really should be explained in the monsters description entry, or at least written so as to clearly direct players to the relevant section of the rules to understand WHY such things are as they are. JMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 3998472, member: 32740"] Rather than say that a creature such as a shrieker has no movement because it has no dex, it would be more accurate to say that it has no dex because it has no movement. It is also inaccurate/misleading to list its save as -- when it should be listed as *, and then, *this creature does not move, therefore has no dex, and because it has no dex it automatically fails reflex saves - (see non-abilities, p. xx). It is interesting as well to note that in the non-ability description of dex it states that a creature with no dex uses its int to adjust its initiative - but a shrieker also has no int. :) Of course I tak that to mean that it has no adjustment to initiative at all, though there will certainly be those who think it means they always go last in intiative, and others who assume that it means they always win initiative because the rules aren't saying they don't. But then all of this really should be explained in the monsters description entry, or at least written so as to clearly direct players to the relevant section of the rules to understand WHY such things are as they are. JMO. [/QUOTE]
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