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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 3566207" data-attributes="member: 42040">The other players (the more veteran gamers) were trying to offer advice during the combat. I tried to warn the newer players like, &quot;you're opening yourself up to 4 sneak attacks if they hit.&quot;&nbsp; I did not design the encounter, it came in an official WotC module. Lately with my home repairs and getting ready to move I don't really have the time to write original stuff. The encounter was an EL 9. The group did know exactly what to expect when they were going in and had easy access to retreat the whole time. The enemies were a 6th level sorcerer, a 4th level cleric/half dragon, and 5 1st level rogues. The party was at full strength. There were 6 characters. Average party level was 5 (modified by +2 for using the recharge magic variant from Unearthed Arcana). Sure it was a difficult, climactic encounter. But there should have been no problem had everyone played his role. Like, why in the heck should a sorcerer step up into melee combat with the BBEG to try to hit him with a Scorching Ray? He's lost several characters like this. It's just incredibly frustrating.Retreater</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 3566207, member: 42040"] The other players (the more veteran gamers) were trying to offer advice during the combat. I tried to warn the newer players like, "you're opening yourself up to 4 sneak attacks if they hit." I did not design the encounter, it came in an official WotC module. Lately with my home repairs and getting ready to move I don't really have the time to write original stuff. The encounter was an EL 9. The group did know exactly what to expect when they were going in and had easy access to retreat the whole time. The enemies were a 6th level sorcerer, a 4th level cleric/half dragon, and 5 1st level rogues. The party was at full strength. There were 6 characters. Average party level was 5 (modified by +2 for using the recharge magic variant from Unearthed Arcana). Sure it was a difficult, climactic encounter. But there should have been no problem had everyone played his role. Like, why in the heck should a sorcerer step up into melee combat with the BBEG to try to hit him with a Scorching Ray? He's lost several characters like this. It's just incredibly frustrating. Retreater [/QUOTE]

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