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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5313438" data-attributes="member: 51930"><p>I've been shocked to see my PCs crush monsters reams of levels above them. As mentioned above, PCs are among the most resilient things in the Universe (and yet we don't use them to build cars...). I'd add to that most powerful, as they tend to obliterate everything in their path.</p><p></p><p>However: are you sure you counted right? What is the level they'll be at in 8 levels? Have you considered all the Feats they'll have for Weapon Focus and modifiers from things like Charge? Did you consider one of them making a Wand of True Strike? If they're levels 13-15, they could have +4 swords; and there's a good chance of high ability modifiers. I'm guessing the module writers are expecting all these to add up.</p><p></p><p>+4 (or higher) from key stats</p><p>+4 from weapons</p><p>+15 BAB</p><p>+1 (or higher) weapon focus and related</p><p>+20 (true strike)</p><p></p><p>we're talking +20 to hit here without True Strike, and +40 with it.</p><p></p><p>Granted, True Strike is a bit silly in the general run of things; every encounter would get old real fast. Still, if you're worried about that sort of number for a few powerful major encounters, say they find a wand somewhere and use it. Heck, the BBEG could have given one to some Orc archers, to slow the PCs down right before they meet their foe.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind also that PCs can and should consider their own needs when collecting gold. They can craft items they want. That's a huge advantage. And some spells are more than attacking defenses, but changing the field of battle: summon swarm, creating massive amounts of water, grease. This stuff can add up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5313438, member: 51930"] I've been shocked to see my PCs crush monsters reams of levels above them. As mentioned above, PCs are among the most resilient things in the Universe (and yet we don't use them to build cars...). I'd add to that most powerful, as they tend to obliterate everything in their path. However: are you sure you counted right? What is the level they'll be at in 8 levels? Have you considered all the Feats they'll have for Weapon Focus and modifiers from things like Charge? Did you consider one of them making a Wand of True Strike? If they're levels 13-15, they could have +4 swords; and there's a good chance of high ability modifiers. I'm guessing the module writers are expecting all these to add up. +4 (or higher) from key stats +4 from weapons +15 BAB +1 (or higher) weapon focus and related +20 (true strike) we're talking +20 to hit here without True Strike, and +40 with it. Granted, True Strike is a bit silly in the general run of things; every encounter would get old real fast. Still, if you're worried about that sort of number for a few powerful major encounters, say they find a wand somewhere and use it. Heck, the BBEG could have given one to some Orc archers, to slow the PCs down right before they meet their foe. Keep in mind also that PCs can and should consider their own needs when collecting gold. They can craft items they want. That's a huge advantage. And some spells are more than attacking defenses, but changing the field of battle: summon swarm, creating massive amounts of water, grease. This stuff can add up. [/QUOTE]
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