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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4130911" data-attributes="member: 3400">Don't fudge for him. Don't mollycoddle him too much. If he won't take advice and then complains about his results, he should be told to shut up or take the advice next time. Give him a chance to redesign when he next brings it up and tell him it's the last chance he gets other than regular character advancement. Take the opportunity or clam up.Honestly, with the opportunities you've been giving him, any complaints that D&D won't let him build the character like Hero is starting to wear thin. On the issue of his Con score, if he complains ask him what he expected? Would a character who neglected his CON and BODY scores in Hero expect to pay a price in lower END, STUN, ED, REC, being stunned more often, and being killed more often? Hell, yes. Well, that's what he's done to himself in D&D. It's true that character classes do limit choices a little, but that's what multiclassing is there to ameliorate. If he's spending too much on forgery, he should be multiclassing between bard and rogue. Alternatively, make a house rule that allows PCs (of ALL players) to swap out 1 or 2 of their regular class skills in favor of 1 or 2 other skills to allow for some flavor tweaking of the class. I actually do this fairly regularly, particularly allowing dwarves to swap out swim and ride in favor of profession (for mining and such) and knowledge (dungeoneering).If this really is his one escape, then tell him to shut off his preconceptions and relax. Take the game as it comes and don't expect to squeeze every last bit of "whatever he wants" out of it. If he's crabbing too much, tell him to go to a movie instead of coming to the game until he's willing to cool off. But also tell him that he door is open and the seat is saved when he's ready to come back and be part of an ensemble cast instead of starring in his own show.And is there a reason he can't multiclass as a bard and beguiler? Why must it be gestalt?</blockquote>

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