Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5335024" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, I don't necessarily agree that enemy is singular. It is a collective noun and it can refer to a group as a whole. I think you have to look to targeting and other factors to make a real determination.This is true. There are however no exactly clean ways of defining who would be eligible in the OP's sort of case. There are a few different possibilities:1) You have a single target power which requires a to-hit roll. This is the simplest. If the attack hits then the rider effect kicks in.2) You have a multi-target power, either an AoE or one that produces multiple attacks (Icy Rays or Twin Strike). This is also clear. Any enemy hit by the attack will be affected by the rider. 3) You have a power which has one or more targets but no to-hit roll (IE Magic Missile). This has been argued endlessly but the gist of it is the target(s) were attacked. The question of whether or not they were "hit" is a bit more ambiguous but WotC seems to be telling us that yes it is correct to say they were hit. 4) You have things like Cleave that do ancillary damage to enemies which weren't the target of the spell and don't get an attack roll made against them. This case has always been considered not and attack or hit. The enemy being affected was not selected during target selection for one thing.5) You have powers like Acid Arrow which are single target but can make attack rolls against other enemies. These are always either explicitly or implicitly secondary attacks, so they generally should engage riders that require a hit or an attack. There may possibly be exceptions. At this point you're not going to find a single simple 100% perfect way to define who was hit by an attack. Common sense has to prevail. If someone shot a magic missile at you then they surely attacked you and surely hit you by any reasonable definition.</blockquote>

Verification