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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5335081" data-attributes="member: 71571">No it isn't.&nbsp; It's never been a collective noun in D&amp;D4e rules terms, and there's no reason to believe it suddenly is just because the player picked up Mark of Storms, which goes to threat links to include 'That enemy' to indicate specificity.Which enemy did you hit?&nbsp; That's the one you hit.&nbsp; A is A.&nbsp; Tautologies are not exactly rocket science.Sure it is.&nbsp; Look at which enemies you hit.&nbsp; Those are the ones you hit.&nbsp; A is A.&nbsp; Tautologies are not hard.Absolutely.Each enemy hit will be affected by the rider.&nbsp; You hit an enemy, that enemy is affected.&nbsp; Not difficult.Which WotC is this? Is this the WotC of Fantasy Land?Hits are the result of attack rolls.&nbsp; Attack rolls have two states:&nbsp; They succeed.&nbsp; That's what hit is.&nbsp; They fail.&nbsp; That's what miss is.&nbsp; That's the definition of those game terms.Magic Missile does not state that you hit its targets, therefore it does not contradict this rule.&nbsp; There is no evidence to believe that magic missile is somehow special and lets you hit things without attack rolls.Is it an attack?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; That's not relevant to the question... are you succeeding with an attack roll?&nbsp; No?&nbsp; It can't trigger effects based on hits then.&nbsp; If you have magic missile, and hunter's quarry, you do not get to add hunter's quarry damage onto magic missile damage.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; You did not hit anything.More importantly, an attack roll was never made against it, therefore it was never hit.&nbsp; Hits are the results of attack rolls.&nbsp; This is not hard.&nbsp;Secondary attacks often involve attack rolls.&nbsp; If those attack rolls hit, then the target of those attack rolls are hit.&nbsp; A hit is a hit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5335081, member: 71571"] No it isn't. It's never been a collective noun in D&D4e rules terms, and there's no reason to believe it suddenly is just because the player picked up Mark of Storms, which goes to threat links to include 'That enemy' to indicate specificity. Which enemy did you hit? That's the one you hit. A is A. Tautologies are not exactly rocket science. Sure it is. Look at which enemies you hit. Those are the ones you hit. A is A. Tautologies are not hard. Absolutely. Each enemy hit will be affected by the rider. You hit an enemy, that enemy is affected. Not difficult. Which WotC is this? Is this the WotC of Fantasy Land? Hits are the result of attack rolls. Attack rolls have two states: They succeed. That's what hit is. They fail. That's what miss is. That's the definition of those game terms. Magic Missile does not state that you hit its targets, therefore it does not contradict this rule. There is no evidence to believe that magic missile is somehow special and lets you hit things without attack rolls. Is it an attack? Yes. That's not relevant to the question... are you succeeding with an attack roll? No? It can't trigger effects based on hits then. If you have magic missile, and hunter's quarry, you do not get to add hunter's quarry damage onto magic missile damage. Why? You did not hit anything. More importantly, an attack roll was never made against it, therefore it was never hit. Hits are the results of attack rolls. This is not hard. Secondary attacks often involve attack rolls. If those attack rolls hit, then the target of those attack rolls are hit. A hit is a hit. [/QUOTE]

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