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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5336006" data-attributes="member: 1210">Not at all.No they don't. And even if one of them did, how often in the past have we seen the designers disagree about the rules?Anytime an argument comes down to &quot;rules as intended&quot; what it usually means is &quot;this is how I play it&quot;. If you're going to assert that the argument is closed, the burden of proof is on you. So far I haven't seen much to suggest that you have met that burden of proof or provided any evidence at all to back up your assertion. Please do not ask me to take your word for it, either. I think you are wrong. Demonstrate to me that I am incorrect by all means, but don't ask me to take it on faith.The reason they didn't say &quot;such powers hit automatically&quot; is because they don't. Instead, they have an effect. In a very few cases, there may be powers that automatically hit with no attack roll required; I seem to recall one in the MM2 or maybe Open Grave or somewhere, but that's only one. For the most part, though, a no-attack-roll required attack power has an effect and &quot;on a hit&quot; stuff does not trigger. Aha, actual text! Pretty much exactly how I would run it- the RAI as I perceive them, plain as day.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 5336006, member: 1210"] Not at all. No they don't. And even if one of them did, how often in the past have we seen the designers disagree about the rules? Anytime an argument comes down to "rules as intended" what it usually means is "this is how I play it". If you're going to assert that the argument is closed, the burden of proof is on you. So far I haven't seen much to suggest that you have met that burden of proof or provided any evidence at all to back up your assertion. Please do not ask me to take your word for it, either. I think you are wrong. Demonstrate to me that I am incorrect by all means, but don't ask me to take it on faith. The reason they didn't say "such powers hit automatically" is because [i]they don't.[/i] Instead, they have an effect. In a very few cases, there may be powers that automatically hit with no attack roll required; I seem to recall one in the MM2 or maybe Open Grave or somewhere, but that's only one. For the most part, though, a no-attack-roll required attack power has an effect and "on a hit" stuff does not trigger. Aha, actual text! Pretty much exactly how I would run it- the RAI as I perceive them, plain as day. [/QUOTE]

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